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New year, old tricks. It seems.

I currently see 50M possible for PS3 and 360 will be pretty close.

Now, the arguments here are flawed in some points:

PS3:s first year is pretty equal to PS2:s first year - yes, that's true, but PS2 was available most of the year only in Japan, while PS3 was most of the year available WW and PS2:s sales were limited, to some extent, by supply constrains.
If you look at the sales regionally, you'll see that it's the Wii sales equal PS2 sales, not the PS3 sales.
PS3 was also launched in pretty similar circumstances that PSX and PS2, second one out and Nintendo after them. With the difference that this time Nintendo didn't give Sony a huge lead and PSX was new in the market, with no serious 3rd party support from the start.

120M PS2 fans - PS2 did sell 120M, but that doesn't make them fans. According to that logic, GC should have sold 60M, since NES had that much fans. Brand loyalty exists only if you have 2 or more similar products that offer the same value. Of course, we could argue what kind of value each console offers, since they are different in many ways and each offer features outside gaming, but as long as they are primarly gaming devices, the one with the best "gaming" focus has the benefit.
And besides, the brand recognition can go beyond the brand, a lot of people are buying Wiis as the "next Playstation".

HDTV adoption - Most people buy HDTV:s to watch their DVD:s, their SD-channels etc. on their HDTV:s, without even knowing what HD means. Also it looks like people confuse TV buyers and console buyers. The 80yo gramps, who buy HDTV to replace his old broken TV, isn't going to start thinking that which console he should be buying, bigger problem for him would be how to get his VCR (if he even have ever acquired one) to work on his new TV.
Although HD is everywhere, it doesn't mean that people would understand what it means.
PS3 has competition in HD market, 360, and besides, just like you can play PS3 and 360 on SDTV, you can play Wii on HDTV.

Blu-Ray - There are BD players available which come with a remote and without useless features like gameplayer. There are cheaper BD players available (with the remote) and while standalone players evolve, come compatible with 200GB discs and turn to ReWritable, i doubt PS3 will, or atleast the earlier models.

Ten years lifespan - If the sales doesn't pick up a lot, it will never have it. Or does it mean similar lifespan like the NES had for 20 years. Either way, it's not going to be supported in the market for that time. The people, who you are now claiming to buy PS3 for any technical advancement, which by PS3 fanboy logic is huge amount of people, will jump to competitors ship unless PS4 comes out to cut the PS3:s life cycle. Unless they are brand loyal and don't care about technological advancements. Oh wait, but PS fans did care, even that they have bought the almost weakest hardware for ten years now, when Sony came to console manufacturing out of nowhere and the brand loyal people didn't have any problems to jump ship.
And look at it, how many people that owned PS2 last gen, owns Wii or 360 this gen.

Market expands - Yes it does, but the one that is really expanding the market is Wii. Unless nearly all the last gens gamers buy PS3 or 360 (for primary console or secondary along with the Wii), neither is going to come even close 100M. Most of the multiconsole owners propably are the same people who owned multiple consoles last gen.



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People need to realise this.. AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT

3rd Party Attach rate means nothing to Developers.. only gamers

3rd Party SALES means everything to developers

Not one developer gives a crap about the fact that wii has a bigger userbase.. they care that wii sells more software, no matter what the attach rate.. they don't make money depending on attach rate!!!!!

So the people saying "um if wii has 5 1mil sellers, and ps3 has 4, yet wii has bigger userbase" are pretty much saying "developers would DEFINITELY prefer to make games for the wii, since it sells more software, regardless of attach rate"



What most fail to understand is how many ps2's each consumer bought.

I had to buy 2 and I knew many ppl who bought 3 because ps2 was an absolute fragile device.

So the numbers for ps2 are inflated by atleast 1.5x IMO



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i dont think it will top 100 million



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No, I don't think it will. Reason : my feeling



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All depend on how long the console will last. Wii will be closest perhaps but its not going to be around as long so it will end up being closer to ps3.

360= LOL They messed up. 50 mill. Shame really, this was their best chance.
Sony= Doubt it 85 mill tho
Wii= Doubt it again but Nintendo arent really concerned with tech. They may not even release Wii2 until along time. They COULD be just starting thir sucess with the Wii and may release add ons like even stranger controllers and really unusual games that use them. The potential is baffling.



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Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Huh
When Blu ray win the war.
And Sonny make PS three ps3 (slim)
The console make a 100million in 7-8years



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There is no way of knowing this...anything could happen

Prices could heavily drop, a hugely popular new slimline ps3, and it might have a suprisingly long life of 10years (extemely unlikely).

It could even beat the Wii this generation if the old hardware becomes completely outdated early. If the wii sells an average of 15million consoles per year over a life of 5 years=75mil(unlikely but possible), then Ps3 only needs to sell an average of 8mil consoles per year for 10 years.



 

Devilstation said:

It could even beat the Wii this generation if the old hardware becomes completely outdated early. If the wii sells an average of 15million consoles per year over a life of 5 years=75mil(unlikely but possible), then Ps3 only needs to sell an average of 8mil consoles per year for 10 years.

This whole "10 year" thing really needs to stop. Aside from the fact that it's obvious Sony PR, it just doesn't make any logical sense. Let me give you some examples:

The SNES launched (in America) in 1991. How much SNES hardware/software was getting sold in 2001?
The Playstation launched in 1995. How many Playstation games were you buying in 2005?
The N64 launched in 1996. There sure were a lot of N64 games announced in 2006, weren't there?

The whole thing is laughable. No one was interested in purchasing games for the decade-old SNES in 2001; you were probably snapping up exciting new titles like Final Fantasy X or Grand Theft Auto 3 instead. I mean, why would you care about a decrepit, ancient system so long after release? The Playstation was the most successful console ever in history at the time it came out, but by 2005 it was completely and utterly dead. What makes you think that a struggling console like the PS3 will still be embraced by consumers in 2016? However great it is now, it will be HOPELESSLY outdated by then!

Unless you think that games like Super Mario 64 and Final Fantasy VII are cutting-edge today... because they were brand-new tech in 1996!



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End of 2008 totals: Wii 42m, 360 24m, PS3 18.5m (made Jan. 4, 2008)