Facts are Wii U is already doing as bad as Vita.

You call him fanboy but you seem to be the best fanboy here, you see what you want to.

Remake dont sell systems ? Really ? Dragon Quest VII ?

And there is many exclusive AAA games coming to Vita this year, those you " forget " obviously.

Wii U is doing as bad as Vita with way less games and advertising...hmmm (let's not go there).

Dragon Quest sells in Japan, that's just known. Mario, Final Fantasy, Monster Hunter, and Dragon Quest are just games that sell consoles in Japan. That's not relevant to our conversation since none of those games are releasing on Vita or Wii U anytime soon.

AAA games are the same as exclusives. Hence, I left AAA in quotation marks because what everyone is referring to as "AAA" titles these days aren't actually AAA, they are just regular exclusives. AAA titles have advertising/promotions, good amount of hype on namesake, possibly midnight releases, among other things. None of the games coming to Vita are going to have those factors I just mentioned so, I'll leave this conversation at that.

Lol, try to be a little more objective  : Wii U has obviously better system seller than Vita, New Super Mario Bros is the best system seller in the world, Vita has just uncharted which could be a system seller and AC and the two only work in the west and are not as good system seller than NSMB.
And again, try to be more objective, Vita hasnt more advertising, there is just the sony direct from the other day, like the nintendo Wii U direct, and we could easily say Wii U has more advertising from the shop, there is none shop which had remove Wii U games, when many shops had remove a lot of vita games, so the visibility is much worst for Vita games.

What you call a AAA game isnt a good definition, Just Dance could be a AAA game based on your definition....

Kazus said: Scisca said: Do you even have the slightest idea of what games are coming to Vita? Your disrespect for these titles is disturbing, as many of them are easily AAA games. You really sound off as a hater and not a realistic person. There may be no no-brainer system seller that will sell 4 millions among these titles, but they are great games and they are much better than the big fat nothing that Wii U is getting over that same period. Vita is getting really good games in the coming months, combined with the price cut that will improve sales. The big Wii U games may not even come this year, and even if they do come out on Christmas, they'll be crushed by the release of PS4 and X720. By that time Vita will be far ahead of Wii U thanks to this "second rate shovelware" that actually got released in the course of the year and not just announced like the Wii U games. Do you really see that as such an unrealistic scenario? I'm not saying it has to happen, the race will most probably be a close one (unless Vita suddenly explodes in Japan), but this is a possible turn of events. And I'm going to repeat - we're talking just about 2013. How many of these system sellers you talk about will Nintendo pump out this year, if even Pikmin 3 hasn't got a release date yet and it was supposed to be a launch window title? Okay, wow. Where do I even start. The "AAA" games you claim that are coming to Vita are remakes, rehashes, and non-exclusives. These games are from series like Dead or Alive, Sly Cooper (recently came out IIRC), Killzone, and Ninja Gaiden (just to name a few that aren't apart of the shovelware that's coming). Out of all those games, which will push more Vita systems? None. That's just the truth. It's literally what is happening to Wii U currently. Since the games have been or are, available on prexisting consoles, people don't care that those games are going to the newer console UNLESS they don't have the prexisting console (which is highly unlikely and the reason why Vita sales and Wii U sales are currently on the same boat). Next, price cuts don't equal better sales so, let's just stop trying to push that ideal right now. Price cuts aren't an amazing miracle to console sales because it depends on what games and bundles are coming plus what time of year this price cut and it's advertisements happen (in Vita's case, this isn't the best time of year since no one is interested in buying hardware during Q1 since it's right after the holidays). "The big Wii U games may not even come this year, and even if they do come out on Christmas, they'll be crushed by the release of PS4 and X720." PS4 (if it knows what's good for it), won't get released by Christmas and even if it does, it won't be this amazing seller unless Sony has SOMEHOW managed to get a bunch on exclusives ready for launch and they annouce all of that today and plan to let people play it during E3 (which is frankly impossible and too short notice to guarentee optimal sales). Additionally 720 will not release this year (and that's just based off common sense and history of console releases). Let's not even go there. Just, please, in the future, try to re-read what you're typing because it really comes off as a Vita/Sony fanboy who is just hurt the Vita is doing bad and just wants Wii U to sink aswell. Let's try to stick to common knowledge and facts too, okay? Thank you!

I'd love it if you were sticking to common knowledge and facts yourself. Why do you mention games that got released or games that Vita gamers aren't really interested in that much as the "games that aren't part of shovelware", while omitting the real big titles? DoA and Ninja Gaiden are close to being a shovelware in comparison to many games that are coming.

"The "AAA" games you claim that are coming to Vita are remakes, rehashes, and non-exclusives"

This makes me feel sorry for you. Think about what you just said - with that sentence you can dismiss almost every single game on Wii U, 3DS or any other console!

Killzone, Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway, Senran Kagura, God Eater 2, Ys: Celceta - all are exclusives, not a single one is a remake. Some are new IPs, some come from big existing franchises, but you can't be serious if you suggest that as being something bad and that such games won't sell hardware just because of that (the "rehashes"). And there are other games coming as well. Persona 4:G, Ragnarok Odyssey and Sly 4 just got released in Europe today, so they will also move some hardware there, though probably after the pricecut comes over here. And there still is Playstation Destination on the 25th, Sony already told us there will be a big 3rd party western game announced soon, so I hope it'll happen there.

@Pricecut - you haven't said anything new, anything we don't already know. At the same time you seem to be the only person here, who doesn't know what games are coming out in the next weeks in Japan, just following the cut. This price cut IS perfectly combined with the release of good games. Sony is doing it right, they are doing exactly what you're talking about. The online event for Japan 2 days ago, today's event, PD on the 25th - Sony is rocking right now. Now we just have to see how the market reacts. There is no doubt in my mind that Vita sales will rise significantly in Japan.

Just, please, in the future, try to do a serious reseach about the matter you're talking about, because you really come off as quite ignorant of the actual situation. Thank you.

No, it really isn't. It used to be, because people were starved after a long 2D Mario drought,  but by now the core has realized that they're not all that similar to the 2D Mario games of the NES and SNES, so the nostalgia factor has faded, and with NSMB2 hitting last year as well, they're burned out on New Super Mario Bros. This leaves their biggest audience as parents buying for their kids, and that's not the audience who will buy the most expensive console currently on the market.

The Wii U has no system seller at present.

I am objective since I do not care for Wii U at all LOL. I don't even have one and I'm not interested for the same reason I'm not interested in Vita, LACK OF DIVERSE SOFTWARE.

I don't care about NSMB re-release-remix for Wii U in HD (featuring Luigi DLC). I'm pretty sure many more people who regularly support Nintendo, feel the same way. Those games won't sell us hence it's not really a system seller or AAA title, it's just an exclusive. Additionally, NSMB and Nintendo Land aren't console sellers clearly (*points to the fact that this topic even exists since it wouldn't exist if NSMB and Nintendo Land sold Wii U well). So, that's not relevant at all.

REGARDLESS, Vita was adveritsed BIG time during it's release (giveaways, other contests, midnight release, commercials and billboards all over the world) unlike Wii U (who just had a midnight release, a very selective public event to try it out plus a midnight release; which is what I was referring to, not the current conditions).

 there is none shop which had remove Wii U games, when many shops had remove a lot of vita games, so the visibility is much worst for Vita games.

Source or it didn't happen since we're being "objectional" here. 

Lastly, using my logic Just Dance WOULDN'T be an AAA title if you actually read all my factors. Just Dance just had commericals which is standard for most exclusives and a few public events (which didn't happen because it's an AAA title, it's because it's a CASUAL title that has mass appeal so, public events are an easy way to build the audience which is a whole different topic altogether about advertising and marketing.)

Are we done here? I grow tired of answering self-explanatory questions and responding to things that we could all easily wiki.

Those aren't system sellers. Existing IPs are system sellers and that's a fact. Am I lying? Like, do I need to list all the consoles, the new IP that was releasded with it and the sales? This is just common knowledge at this point. I don't know how else I can explain that to you. 

Anyways, I was speaking about AMERICAN releases. I'm sorry if that crossed you in your argument but I was making points in reference to that since Sony has Japan on lock, I'd rather not talk about that since it's pointless. It's the other regions Sony has to worry for.

Regardless, I think you misinterpreted a lot of what I typed so, I'll just leave it at, I was discussing Sony and Vita sales in relation to AAA titles upcoming  (which are like 2) in the regions that aren't Japan since AGAIN, the other regions is what Sony has to worry about currently.

Yep, I'm done here. Thank you for that interesting discussion, I guess. 

RAWR

Vita will probably outsell the Wii U following the price cut, until major software arrives for the Wii U, which might not be until Q3.

Both systems have the potential to make dramatic comebacks, and while the Wii U does seem to have more long term comeback potential, in the short term the Vita has it beat.

Ok, forget about the whole topic. Sony has just murdered Vita. F-ing idiots!!

And they did it all with a smile, as if they have just announced something awesome. UNB3LI3VABL3

How did they "murder" Vita?