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superchunk said:
iOS is no where near failing or anything like that.

However, I 100% agree that the personalization, widgets, and other built-in customization I can do on any Android phone is a billion light-years ahead of iOS.

I seriously don't get why anyone would want just a row of icons. That's so Win95.

no one wants the icons. they want the app store.



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michael_stutzer said:
RVDondaPC said:

Not sure what you are talking about. I just tried it using the google search app and the Safari web browser app on my iPad and both times with two different sites(including this one) I could type up a reply, switch to another app using multi finger swiping or by pressing the home button, and both times my text was still there just the way I left it when I reopened the app I had typed it in. And Apple shut down the app to save battery life while I wasn't using it. How is that a terrible design? 

Also by putting settings for apps in the settings app allows the app to be designed so that it doesn't have to include those settings in the design of the app. Since for most people .01% of the time is spent adjusting settings, and 99.9% of the time is spend using the app for what it is intended. It allows for better design freedom. Also you don't have to go around trying to figure out where the settings are on each new app, because they are right there in the settings app. I wish apps took even more advantage of this design as it is a much more efficient design to do things. Apple doesn't do "Multi-tasking" because anytime you switch apps it shuts it down to save battery power and when you reopen it it goes right back to where you left it. That is just the same as multi-tasking, except it saves battery power and data consumption but yields the same kind of multi-tasking ability on a phone. It doesn't however have true multi-tasking as you can't see two apps/programs at one time, but on a phone that is pretty pointless anyways because the screens are too small. 

What is so bad about the notification center? It notifies you when something happens. What else do you want it to do? I did like the notification center on my SII better, but my iPhone/iPad navigate much faster that I don't even use my notification bar to navigate like I did on the SII so I don't miss it. 

iTunes is the best ecosystem for content consumption, especially if you have Apple TV and multiple Apple products that can seemlessly work together. If you are refering to pirated content, then yes Apple is terrible. And probably why poor people tend to favor Android. 

LOL at the last sentence. People like you doesn't even worth my time but I have to say this: having access to pirated apps is much, much easier on IOS. It is 5 minutes of work at best.


iTunes has nothing to do with Apps. 

"People like you doesn't even worth my time"



Sorry but Apple sold less in 2012 than 2011??? It's called record sales for a reason.

How can a company that sold more and more every year fail. I can't understand.



RVDondaPC said:
michael_stutzer said:

IOS is good if you use Itunes but that is about it. It is a pain in the ass even if you want to use it as a consumption device. I have an Ipad 4 and software is so bad it hurts. When I need to change settings I need to go to quit the app, go to settings, make the adjustments and go back. Still, it should be an easy process right. Since it can't really multitask, it reloads everything when I go back. Yesterday I wrote a two page article for a website, changed the tab for something, I went back and Bam! It's gone. It reloads every webpage, everytime! Wtf is that? Apps can barely talk to each other. That is a big one. It just doesn't know what to do. They are trying to implement it Android style but it is half assed at this point.

The notification center is laughable. It is a big rip off of the Android notification shade but this is stupidly bad. I don't really care on Ipad but if I had an Iphone I'd go crazy. It is just crap. Though better than WP's implementation :p.

I can go on and on really. Music, video transfer, lack of a folder system etc. 

There are good things of course. It is really fast and as long as you stick to a single tab, it works very well. Gaming performance is also very good, though it is pointless for me. App selection, no need to mention.

I just hope that Android app selection can be as diverse as IOS for Android. I use Pro apps like Final Draft etc on my Ipad, which are sadly not available for Android tablets. 

Not sure what you are talking about. I just tried it using the google search app and the Safari web browser app on my iPad and both times with two different sites(including this one) I could type up a reply, switch to another app using multi finger swiping or by pressing the home button, and both times my text was still there just the way I left it when I reopened the app I had typed it in. And Apple shut down the app to save battery life while I wasn't using it. How is that a terrible design? 

Also by putting settings for apps in the settings app allows the app to be designed so that it doesn't have to include those settings in the design of the app. Since for most people .01% of the time is spent adjusting settings, and 99.9% of the time is spend using the app for what it is intended. It allows for better design freedom. Also you don't have to go around trying to figure out where the settings are on each new app, because they are right there in the settings app. I wish apps took even more advantage of this design as it is a much more efficient design to do things. Apple doesn't do "Multi-tasking" because anytime you switch apps it shuts it down to save battery power and when you reopen it it goes right back to where you left it. That is just the same as multi-tasking, except it saves battery power and data consumption but yields the same kind of multi-tasking ability on a phone. It doesn't however have true multi-tasking as you can't see two apps/programs at one time, but on a phone that is pretty pointless anyways because the screens are too small. 

What is so bad about the notification center? It notifies you when something happens. What else do you want it to do? I did like the notification center on my SII better, but my iPhone/iPad navigate much faster that I don't even use my notification bar to navigate like I did on the SII so I don't miss it. 

iTunes is the best ecosystem for content consumption, especially if you have Apple TV and multiple Apple products that can seemlessly work together. If you are refering to pirated content, then yes Apple is terrible. And probably why poor people tend to favor Android. 

Multi-window multi-tasking works quite nicely on my Note 2. One minute the Jobs disciples are saying Samsung screens are too big, now they're too small? 

Oh and I bought my phone outright and it cost a lot more than those feeble little iToys you love so much. 



 

 

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DaRev said:

Fact, almost every gamer will have to drop dead, before handhelds and consoles are replaced by cell phone gaming. What people, like you don't realise is that phones, whether smart or dumb, are a now a way of life. They are however not a way of gaming life. Therefore, people don't necessarily go out to buy a phone because they want to play the next God of War, Halo or Mario game or even the next Madden. They buy a phone because they want or need a phone. If the phone is able to play games then it’s an added bonus.

Yes phones compete for the same disposable income that people would spend on consoles or handhelds, but so does every other consumer product competes for people's disposable income. Therefore, it doesn't necessarily mean that phones and gaming devices are in direct competition with each other, to the extent that phone manufacturers (like Apple) could put gaming companies (like Nintendo) out of business.

 


You have that completely backwards. People already own phones that play games and more are buying them every day. For many, this will sate their need to go buy a dedicated handheld to complement their phone. As mobile gaming improves, that need is lessened even more. Hardcore gamers will always want their dedicated handhelds but for the vast majority of the population, that is becoming less important as they are introduced to the world of gaming on their tablets and phones. You mentioned "disposable income". That is the very thing that dedicated game devices have working against them. Phone purchases are no longer disposable income purchases. They're a necessity for many. And if that non-disposable income device plays games and plays them at a satisfactory level for many, why would they then turn around and use their valuable disposable income for a dedicated gaming device?

And where on earth did you make the connection that I thought mobile gaming was going to replace consoles? I mentioned smart televisions right there in the post. Those are the devices that will begin to eat into console sales, not phones.

Which is why Microsoft is positioned nicely while Sony could be left on the outside looking in. MS has spent over a decade convincing consumers that the Xbox is a versatile machine to fill their entertainment needs by offering Netflix/Hulu, cable television, Kinect control options, movie/tv rentals and purchases, etc. They were trying to make televisions "smart" long before anyone coined the phrase "smart television".




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wick said:
RVDondaPC said:
michael_stutzer said:

IOS is good if you use Itunes but that is about it. It is a pain in the ass even if you want to use it as a consumption device. I have an Ipad 4 and software is so bad it hurts. When I need to change settings I need to go to quit the app, go to settings, make the adjustments and go back. Still, it should be an easy process right. Since it can't really multitask, it reloads everything when I go back. Yesterday I wrote a two page article for a website, changed the tab for something, I went back and Bam! It's gone. It reloads every webpage, everytime! Wtf is that? Apps can barely talk to each other. That is a big one. It just doesn't know what to do. They are trying to implement it Android style but it is half assed at this point.

The notification center is laughable. It is a big rip off of the Android notification shade but this is stupidly bad. I don't really care on Ipad but if I had an Iphone I'd go crazy. It is just crap. Though better than WP's implementation :p.

I can go on and on really. Music, video transfer, lack of a folder system etc. 

There are good things of course. It is really fast and as long as you stick to a single tab, it works very well. Gaming performance is also very good, though it is pointless for me. App selection, no need to mention.

I just hope that Android app selection can be as diverse as IOS for Android. I use Pro apps like Final Draft etc on my Ipad, which are sadly not available for Android tablets. 

Not sure what you are talking about. I just tried it using the google search app and the Safari web browser app on my iPad and both times with two different sites(including this one) I could type up a reply, switch to another app using multi finger swiping or by pressing the home button, and both times my text was still there just the way I left it when I reopened the app I had typed it in. And Apple shut down the app to save battery life while I wasn't using it. How is that a terrible design? 

Also by putting settings for apps in the settings app allows the app to be designed so that it doesn't have to include those settings in the design of the app. Since for most people .01% of the time is spent adjusting settings, and 99.9% of the time is spend using the app for what it is intended. It allows for better design freedom. Also you don't have to go around trying to figure out where the settings are on each new app, because they are right there in the settings app. I wish apps took even more advantage of this design as it is a much more efficient design to do things. Apple doesn't do "Multi-tasking" because anytime you switch apps it shuts it down to save battery power and when you reopen it it goes right back to where you left it. That is just the same as multi-tasking, except it saves battery power and data consumption but yields the same kind of multi-tasking ability on a phone. It doesn't however have true multi-tasking as you can't see two apps/programs at one time, but on a phone that is pretty pointless anyways because the screens are too small. 

What is so bad about the notification center? It notifies you when something happens. What else do you want it to do? I did like the notification center on my SII better, but my iPhone/iPad navigate much faster that I don't even use my notification bar to navigate like I did on the SII so I don't miss it. 

iTunes is the best ecosystem for content consumption, especially if you have Apple TV and multiple Apple products that can seemlessly work together. If you are refering to pirated content, then yes Apple is terrible. And probably why poor people tend to favor Android. 

Multi-window multi-tasking works quite nicely on my Note 2. One minute the Jobs disciples are saying Samsung screens are too big, now they're too small? 

Oh and I bought my phone outright and it cost a lot more than those feeble little iToys you love so much. 


1. Your phone is the one that is plastic.

2. The iPhone price is $650-$850. I have yet to find a Note II that costs more than that. You must have over paid. 

3. I'm sure the multi-window multi-tasking works quite well. Just don't think it's really necessary to accomplish any normal task that someone can't do on the iPhone or any other smart phone, and it drains a lot more of the battery doing things that way. Also if it's for work and such don't see why you can't use a tablet and/or laptop instead of your phone, so that when you go out on the weekend or when you go for a run on the beach you don't have to carry around such a big phone to stay connected. Just seems like a less efficient way to do things than having a tablet for certain big screen tasks, and a smaller phone for convenience and portability. The only thing I can think of, is it costs less money to just have one device.  



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Then they bring out a new phone with the gimped features included and call it an s model and the sheep flock to it.



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kowenicki said:
MoHasanie said:
I bought an Iphone 5, and I must say that I was very unimpressed, and will never recommend this phone. Its a nice phone, but not worth the price. I convinced my sister to buy the Lumia 920, and I was using it yesterday, and the interface is so much more interesting, and everything looks better on it. Plus, the quality of it is outstanding. The guy at the Nokia store demonstrated by dropping one on the floor and it didn't even scratch it. If I dropped my Iphone, it would certainly get damaged. I wish I bought that phone instead. :(


My nokia 920 arrives tomorrow! so pleased with the demo unit I had last week. Streets ahead of any other phone I've had.


It's a dream phone Kow - hope you're enjoying it.

For my money - Civilization Rev WP is the best mobile game in existence. Have sunk many hours into it.

Lumia 920 also has the best camera I've ever owned - in a phone or otherwise.