Voter fraud would be an issue if people vote more than once.  The bigger problem seen here isn't duplicate voting, but people who shouldn't be votijng actually voting.

The reality now is the issue is a political one, brought up to keep away people who won't vote Republican from the polls.  The proposals are at the polling areas.  What you listed here involved absentee ballots (you even listed that here).  IDs won't fix this issue of absentee ballots at all.  

Again, the issue with voter fraud is either duplicate voting or someone else voting in the place of someone else.  The core of the issue is now political, and is being raised for political reasons, as is stated.  Voter registration fraud gets people who shouldn't be on the ballot roles on the ballot roles.  

Because of the way it is being framed, what comes up is "there is almost NO cases of fraud at the polling places".  Thus, there is no problem with issues with voting.  That is because of how it is framed.  Issues of hacking voting machines, and what I mentioned about issues with registration get ignored.  Both of these are not resolved with IDs at the polling places.  What the checking of IDs at polling booth does, is end up driving away people from actually voting, who won't vote Republican.

If you are't seeing this, then you are remain blind to the political side of things:

Fair enough.  In Ohio and Vegas it's nothing but names.

No... he won Florida.  He won the initial votes.

That the recount was illegal was ruled... by a vote of 7-2.   Which you can't call a politically motivated decision.  (Although actually I disagree with the ruling... since like gore argued that pretty much makes all statewide elections illegal, at least from my POV.  Well i guess that doesn't make the ruling wrong, but it should of came with an order for states to standardize voting procedures in all districts.)

There never was a recount because the Florida deadline for recounts was the 12th.  Something the Supreme court did decide on partisian 5-4 lines.  Which is silly... since that was the date Florida established.  That was decided along partisian lines, but it was the minority that ruled due to political preference.  (The ruling in this case was correct.)

Even Gore admitted as much when he dropped the case.  What he was looking for was a win on it not being a breach under the 14th ammendment.  When he lost that, he lost the election. 

The 7-2 result is the only questionable ruling.

The democrats are famous for voter fraud.

In Chicago, where the dead have voted.

Well, and in a lot of recent multiple cases where the never existed have... although as i recall a private get out the vote contractor hired by the Republicans has been hit by this too in Ten. so it's not like it's JUST one way.

The illegal voting that goes on just tends to benefit Democrats hence why they're against such legislation.  (and why Republicans thought it would win Romney the election, it wouldn't have.)

Fears about keeping legitamtie people away from the polls are unfounded.  Democrats found one woman who they thought would be too burdened to be able to get the needed ID to vote.  What happened?  They lost the case... then she got the proper ID to vote.

It is turning a blind eye to possible legitimate issues and going into it just enough to use it as a political tool.  With issues involving gerrymandering and more, there isn't interest in real votes, just obtaining and holding power.

Which is why you need the voter ID laws.  They catch registration problems and more.

"Papers please".

If you end up charging people for these IDs, then it is a poll tax.  If you don't charge them for it, then it is a burden put on local governments, or another expense state and federal government needs to pick up.  If unfunded, it becomes yet another unfunded mandate for local and state governments to bear.

And then the next thing, see original quote, it ends up like a national identity card, and gets into civil rights issues here, about the right to privacy. 

And also, voter ID cards won't catch the issues with registration, not if the system is not going to bother to check the backgrounds of folks at all.  You still have holes in there.  

Throw in also the costs to get a system in place, and it becomes an issue.  But of course, the issue again isn't to have voting done right, it is shaped for political reasons.  Do any of the individuals who scream about voter fraud, and post in forums like this about how it is an issue, even bother talking about how not all the votes that should be counted aren't?  Like a system that drives people away?  Nah.... doesn't matter that not all the people who can vote do, in places that vote Democratic.  Like, it is JUST FINE that the following happened in Florida (over 200,000 driven away from polls due to the lines):

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-voter-lines-statewide-20130118,0,1394591.story

Do you think thranx would EVER post an article on that?  Of course not...  It doesn't match the political agenda of the poster.  It isn't about voting integrity, it is about having things break the way you want.  I am at a place where I am really getting tired of that.  And yes, maybe I have the same bias.

I never waited in line to vote. I vote by mail in ballot. I dont think i am a special case, all i had to do was register for absentee ballot as i know i will allways have to work on election day. These people had that option too, but chose not to use it. I dont see the issue there. Unless they are different than CA. Their inability to plan is not my fault. Like i said in the op, i merely posted this as last time there was discussion about it, people said it doesn't happen. It happened to show up on drudge so i posted it here. Looks like FLorida already had a solution in place for things like this, but people chose not to use it.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/absentee.shtml

What is Absentee Voting?

Absentee voting refers to voting on a ballot received by mail or picked up by or for a person who is unable or cannot go to the polls to vote during early voting or Election Day. A person does not have to be absent from his or her county of residence or have another reason to vote absentee. A request must be made to receive an absentee ballot. A request covers all elections through the end of the calendar year for the second ensuing regularly scheduled general election. Contact your Supervisor of Elections to request an absentee ballot.

How to Request an Absentee BallotBack

You must request your absentee ballot directly from the Supervisor of Elections in one of the following ways:

• On-line. To submit an on-line absentee ballot request, go to the Supervisor of Elections contact (Click your county on the map or enter your county name. When the Supervisor’s contact information appears, click on the Supervisor’s web address which will take you directly to the Supervisor’s website);
• Other written request (e.g., by e-mail or for military members and their family, and overseas citizens only, by federal postcard and absentee application (FPCA))
• in person;
• by telephone; or
• by mail.

The request for an absentee ballot can be made by you or if directly instructed to do so, an immediate family member or legal guardian on your behalf.

When a request is made the following information is required:

• the name of the voter for whom the ballot is being requested;
• the voter’s address;
• the voter’s date of birth; and
• the voter’s signature (if the request is written).

If a member of your immediate family or legal guardian is requesting an absentee ballot for you, the following additional information must be provided:

• the requestor’s address;
• the requestor’s driver’s license number (if available);
• the requestor’s relationship to the voter; and
• the requestor’s signature (if the request is written).

A request to receive an absentee ballot by mail must be received by the Supervisor of Elections no later than 5 p.m. on the 6th day before the election. Otherwise, you can obtain an absentee ballot up until and including Election Day. However, it must still be returned by no later than 7 p.m. on Election Day if the voted ballot is to count.

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The voter may pick up an absentee ballot on election day or up to 5 days before an election. The voter may also designate someone else to pick up the ballot for him or her. A designee may only pick up 2 absentee ballots per election (other than his or her own ballot and ballots for members of his or her immediate family). The designee must submit a completed Affidavit to Pick-up an Absentee Ballot for a Voter which includes the written authorization from the voter. If the voter did not already request a ballot, the Affidavit must be accompanied by a request.

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After you mark your ballot, it must be received by the Supervisor of Elections no later than 7 p.m. on Election Day. Other options are available for military members and their families who are absent from their county of residence due to active duty, and for overseas civilians. Contact your county Supervisor of Elections for more information. Do not return the marked ballot to a polling place except if you decide you want or are able to vote in your precinct on election day. In that case, you must take the absentee ballot with you to the polls (whether it has been marked or not). Even if you come to the polls without your absentee ballot, you will still be able to vote a regular ballot if the supervisor of elections’ office is able to confirm that it has not received your absentee ballot. However, if it is confirmed that you have already voted an absentee ballot, you cannot vote again at the polls. If you think the supervisor of elections’ office is wrong about receiving your absentee ballot or if the supervisor of elections’ office cannot confirm that you have already voted an absentee ballot, you will be allowed to vote a provisional ballot.

How to Track Your Absentee Ballot Request and Returned BallotBack

As of July 2010, any voter who has requested an absentee ballot can track online the status of his or her absentee ballot. You can either link through the Division of Elections’ Voter Information Lookup at www.elections.myflorida.com or through your Supervisor of Elections' website.