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Forums - Politics Discussion - Voter Fraud....Update

thranx on 12 February 2013
richardhutnik said:
If you have a very lax system for registering voters, then you run into problems with people who shouldn't vote, actually voting. The place where the fraud is with the voter is one where a person isn't prevented from voting more than once. If it is done right, then you would only have one vote.

If you want to stop voter registration fraud it is NOT done by checking ID at the voting area, it is done when you register. And yes, there is a chance at voter irregularities with that. BUT the whole voter fraud thing is NOT about legitimate voting, it is about keeping individuals who won't vote Republican, away from the voting area. It is a political power play above about everything else. And if you don't think so, well then you do have a problem. And I can tell this, because you can guess where a person stands on a lot of issues if they keep harping on this. Check what thranx has written about political in the past, and you see.

In short, you are a political tool to advance the agenda of a political party. Thranx, you are a tool, congrats!


wow. dont know what i did to you. I only brought it up as so many here said it never happens and doesn't exist. here she clearly states what she did and that she thinks its ok and that her daughter did it to. So voter fraud does happen and does exist. Contrary to some peoples beliefs on here.  I was also trying to start a discussion on waht can be done. I also dont vote republican, although they are closer to my view than deomcrats, i see them as two sides of the same coin and vote third party only. And yes please see what i have written here on politics. I think we all know who the tool is by how they post.  way to avoid the issue and attack the messanger though. You say the way to solve it is by stopping it when registering to vote, well how will you check? with an ID or some other method? if its by ID than how that differ from those who want to check IDs at voting booths? I have no love for republicans or democrats, or any politition that wants to grow the size of government or add uneeded ill thought out regulations.



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spaceguy on 12 February 2013

Not going to touch this. LOL what a joke.



Kasz216 on 12 February 2013
richardhutnik said:
If you have a very lax system for registering voters, then you run into problems with people who shouldn't vote, actually voting. The place where the fraud is with the voter is one where a person isn't prevented from voting more than once. If it is done right, then you would only have one vote.

If you want to stop voter registration fraud it is NOT done by checking ID at the voting area, it is done when you register. And yes, there is a chance at voter irregularities with that. BUT the whole voter fraud thing is NOT about legitimate voting, it is about keeping individuals who won't vote Republican, away from the voting area. It is a political power play above about everything else. And if you don't think so, well then you do have a problem. And I can tell this, because you can guess where a person stands on a lot of issues if they keep harping on this. Check what thranx has written about political in the past, and you see.

In short, you are a political tool to advance the agenda of a political party. Thranx, you are a tool, congrats!


What exactly is the difference between when someone is registetering and "when someone is voting" except for the fact that "When somebody is voting" is more accurate with less abuse?

Every negative someone brings up about voter ID laws applies to voter registration laws.



Kasz216 on 12 February 2013
Mr Khan said:
haxxiy said:

I found it mind-boggling when I discovered american voting ballots were written in both english and spanish. Who knows exactly why they need those...

Oh, it's more than that. Any district that has a registered voter that speaks a non-English language as their primary language is required by law to get a translator for that language, whatever it may be. Leads to major cities needing things like Farsi, Cambodian, Urdu, or French Creole to name a few.


Which is kind of silly.  I could vote in Spanish, French, Italian Portuges, pretty much everything with the same language names because all voting is... is names.



fordy on 12 February 2013

The most notable case of voter fraud was in fact a Republican voter, who believed that voter fraud was so rampant that she decided to vote twice (essentially becoming part of said voter fraud). Of course, she got caught for it...



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Mr Khan on 12 February 2013
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
haxxiy said:

I found it mind-boggling when I discovered american voting ballots were written in both english and spanish. Who knows exactly why they need those...

Oh, it's more than that. Any district that has a registered voter that speaks a non-English language as their primary language is required by law to get a translator for that language, whatever it may be. Leads to major cities needing things like Farsi, Cambodian, Urdu, or French Creole to name a few.


Which is kind of silly.  I could vote in Spanish, French, Italian Portuges, pretty much everything with the same language names because all voting is... is names.

Not really. You need to know what you're voting for as much as who. For local elections where the names might be less well-known, you'd have to know what a Comptroller or Magistrate is.



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Kasz216 on 12 February 2013
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
haxxiy said:

I found it mind-boggling when I discovered american voting ballots were written in both english and spanish. Who knows exactly why they need those...

Oh, it's more than that. Any district that has a registered voter that speaks a non-English language as their primary language is required by law to get a translator for that language, whatever it may be. Leads to major cities needing things like Farsi, Cambodian, Urdu, or French Creole to name a few.


Which is kind of silly.  I could vote in Spanish, French, Italian Portuges, pretty much everything with the same language names because all voting is... is names.

Not really. You need to know what you're voting for as much as who. For local elections where the names might be less well-known, you'd have to know what a Comptroller or Magistrate is.

Why?

If I don't know who Mike Johnson and John Mikeson are, how is knowing they are running for Comptroller going to help make a more informed choice?



Salnax on 12 February 2013

I'm okay with Vote ID, provided it is given automatically to all eligible voters.



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gergroy on 12 February 2013
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
haxxiy said:

I found it mind-boggling when I discovered american voting ballots were written in both english and spanish. Who knows exactly why they need those...

Oh, it's more than that. Any district that has a registered voter that speaks a non-English language as their primary language is required by law to get a translator for that language, whatever it may be. Leads to major cities needing things like Farsi, Cambodian, Urdu, or French Creole to name a few.


Which is kind of silly.  I could vote in Spanish, French, Italian Portuges, pretty much everything with the same language names because all voting is... is names.

Not really. You need to know what you're voting for as much as who. For local elections where the names might be less well-known, you'd have to know what a Comptroller or Magistrate is.

Why?

If I don't know who Mike Johnson and John Mikeson are, how is knowing they are running for Comptroller going to help make a more informed choice?

I don't know if it is the same in other states, but in Utah the ballots contain a short summary from the politician that gives their position on issues and their goals.  That would probably be important to be able to read if I didn't know much about them...



Zappykins on 12 February 2013
Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

Which is why voter ID laws really are the only thing that makes sense.

Racism never makes sense, Kasz.


I wonder how racist it would seem if it turns out Illegal Cubans are why Bush won Florida in 2000.

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And for some funny reason, the majority of the Supreme Court - which included Dad's nominations, chose Flordia.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor has said repeatedly it was the worste decision of her life.  But she needed Bush in office so should could retire and take care of her ailing husband, while a conservative replaced her.



 

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