5783 posts since 13/01/11
Turkish on 08 February 2013
Interesting posts on gaf following the abysmal Wii software numbers in the UK
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So I did a few calculations with these figures.
Total sales Jan 2012 - 2778
Total sales Jan 2013 - 2111
Market decrease of 26%
Now let's look at the detail.
Nintendo vs non-Nintendo:
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 999k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2012 - 1779k
Total Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 467k
Total non-Nintendo platform sales in Jan 2013 - 1644k
Nintendo YoY decrease - 53.3%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease - 7.6%
Non-Nintendo YoY decrease consoles only - 3.5%
So, is it the UK market that's dead, or Nintendo that's dead in the UK?
I hope this myth that gaming is dead in the UK ceases to exist, it's Nintendo that are in serious decline. A new generation of consoles from Sony and MS would more than fix the current problems for their own decline.
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This is the percent of marketshare the Wii U had in each country last year:
France: 4.20%
UK: 3.08%
Germany: 3.08%
Netherlands: 2.24%
Belgium: 1.96%
Italy: 1.68%
Spain: 1.12%
In those terms the UK is the Wii U's joint second best market.
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Home console HW sales aimed at traditional gaming demographics have been remarkably stable during the last decade through the rise and fall of the Wii, through the GFC, through the rise of the iPhone and iOS and consequently Android and tablets.
Per JVM's figure:
So what do you guys think?
4036 posts since 15/04/12
DieAppleDie on 08 February 2013
lol, it was about time! xD
Simon says...NINTENDO!
or death.
34458 posts since 07/01/09
pezus on 08 February 2013
1.12% marketshare in Spain? Wth
France is the only one that looks almost mediocre
19920 posts since 06/12/08
Mr Khan on 08 February 2013
The better question: is the market in decline because Nintendo's in decline?
7th-gen growth is largely due to Wii/DS, after all. If Nintendo's dropped the ball such that they're not doing the heavy lifting anymore, how will the 8th gen stack up?
Could be the first instance of gen-over-gen decline in the history of home console gaming.
Signature courtesy of miz1q2w3e
1350 posts since 28/12/08
phenom08 on 08 February 2013
You asked if the market is in decline and only show figures in Europe lol. And how can it only be Ninty when the other consoles are in decline as well?
Mummelmann said "I think that the Wii U will have a shorter life than the Wii."
In the thread Reggie Says Wii U Will Fend Off Next Xbox And PlayStation 4 on page 7.
phenom08 said:
Lol ethomaz so it will be at 103 in 2017 while the Wii will be there by like 2015? 7 million for next fiscal year was very optimistic from me. That's the absolute best it could do. I personally think 6, 4, 2 are more likely, giving it 99 million by March 2017.
ethomaz replies:
Using your own biased numbers...
FY2013: ~87m (Sony forecast)
FY2014: ~93m
FY2015: ~97m
FY2016: 99m
FY2017: ?
99m as of end of March, 2016.
Are you making confusion with fiscal years?
IN OTHER WORDS ETHOMAZ DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHEN FY2016 ENDS, YET HE WANTS TO PREDICT FIGURES LOL.
6407 posts since 12/11/08
forest-spirit on 08 February 2013
Obviously both. The market as a whole includes Nintendo and if Nintendo declines with no one to take their place then the whole market declines.
19919 posts since 12/03/08
axumblade on 08 February 2013
I think it is because Nintendo is just the first on the market. If you look at the 360 launch, it wasn't super impressive (about 5 million before the next console launched) but it still managed to give the 360 the edge to keep it over the 360 up until this point. Also, once Nintendo actually have some newer games on the market, it should be fine. By the time the new xbox and new ps3 launches, it should be well above the 5 million mark. What happens afterward is anybody elses guess.
1350 posts since 28/12/08
phenom08 on 08 February 2013
Exactly Mr. Khan, without Ninty the market would continue to decline because lets face it, they're the only ones left that can actually sell well globally and not just well in a hand full of territories.
Mummelmann said "I think that the Wii U will have a shorter life than the Wii."
In the thread Reggie Says Wii U Will Fend Off Next Xbox And PlayStation 4 on page 7.
phenom08 said:
Lol ethomaz so it will be at 103 in 2017 while the Wii will be there by like 2015? 7 million for next fiscal year was very optimistic from me. That's the absolute best it could do. I personally think 6, 4, 2 are more likely, giving it 99 million by March 2017.
ethomaz replies:
Using your own biased numbers...
FY2013: ~87m (Sony forecast)
FY2014: ~93m
FY2015: ~97m
FY2016: 99m
FY2017: ?
99m as of end of March, 2016.
Are you making confusion with fiscal years?
IN OTHER WORDS ETHOMAZ DOESN'T EVEN KNOW WHEN FY2016 ENDS, YET HE WANTS TO PREDICT FIGURES LOL.
8970 posts since 03/10/07
kitler53 on 08 February 2013
Turkish said:
Per JVM's figure |
oh wow, that's a sexy graphic. thanks for sharing.
..and both. sony and MS let their gen go on too long but i don't expect the kind of declines we are seeing with nintendo come next gen.
