They can call whatever they want Nex-gen.

I don't give a crap about that. The only thing that bugs me is when they believe that their games currently look or that they will look better than what the PC offers.

It's quite frustrating to have them constantly being deluted to thinking that the PS4/720 are somehow going to make current top of line PC games look last gen. Then they always post some game engine preview that was posted as proof, ect.

Probably speaking for more than just myself, but I have a 27" monitor.  I'm sure most people have at least a 24" if they have a top end PC.  You don't build yourself an awesome computer and buy a pathetic 17" monitor.

You are how far away from your 47" tv?  I'm this close to my 27" monitor.   I have a 50" tv, but games look bigger on my monitor cause I'm closer to the screen.

Not to mention the games are on higher resolution on my monitor than they are on the TV screen.

Also I have a very comfortable office chair.  I can sit in it for the entire day and I will be less sore than if I was sitting on the couch all day.  Trust me, I have done both and I get sore after a while on the couch.  I don't in my office chair.  Considering office chairs are made to be sat in for entire work days, the nice ones assumed to be for people who would work for more than 8 hours and keep a person comfortable.  That's not surprising.

I dont see how this is hard to get.

PC games are "bottlenecked" by current gen console systems. Devs dont really care that much about maxing out the PC. With a new console generation the baseline improves. Thats a good thing for both PC gamers and console gamers.

And no, people are not saying that PC games will look bad compared to console games...but rather PC games will also start looking better (with the usual added benefits of running it on PC).

PC will always be the best quality.

I have a custom-built, high-end PC as well as all of the current consoles, and what is keeping me interested in the next-gen consoles are the next-gen exclusives and software lineup of the upcoming generation. Despite playing most multiplatform games on PC, I still enjoy the console exclusives, and I don't think that will change in the upcoming console generation.

what would you consider a high end computer? (or video card) steam has great stats that can answer how big the high end pc market is.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

I am curious to know myself. I dont think the high end pc market is very big. I used to be a high end pc gamer, and when I was I never knew any other person in real life with a high end pc, and there weren't a lot on gaming sites either. Our pc community here is rather small, and I only see maybe 3 high end pc owners. I am still a pc gamer, but no longer stay at the high end

In UK, US Japan, Korea, Russia and many other places, regular LAN events are held where thousands upon thousands of pc gamers congregate to play games and socialize - this is only the very tip of a very large iceberg.

Consider the following, 1.6 million GTX680 gpu's were produced and released within the first week on sale globally (numbers direct from our contact at Nvidia) - In virtualy all physical and online retailers the GPU was sold out by the end of the first week, despite new units hitting the market the card is still highly saught after and some websites even have a stock level tracker up (even now) so people can find one to buy - a GPU that launched at a price point higher than the PS3, and yet they sold 1.6 million.

The price makes the thought of many people buying two for SLI not a common occurance, so if we make a bold estimate and say that 100,000 people bought two for SLI, then we're still left with 1.4 million people with a very high end graphics card, in the space of one week. - this doesnt account for the people that didnt upgrade because they already felt their setups were fast enough (560ti, sli, 580, sli owners and so on).

This is where you are mistaken - much lke many of the other posters here - you're essentially trying to tell a developer what a developer does and does not do - in most cases (especially for xbox) launch titles are running on modified versions of engines used for older games, PS4 is running on modified engines from previous PC games, and more often than not due to arch changes the PS4 and 720 will end up running on modified PC engines, much like UE4 has (obviously not officially since they cant pre-empy sony and microsoft's announcements), target compile for Ps4 and 720 systems, from an engine primarilly built for PC's.

People hoping for and expecting brand new engines at launch, with magically awesome pc-beating graphics or close to it, are in for a dissapointment, the games are going to look great, i don't dispute that, and dramatically better than the PS3/720, i don't dispute that either - but again, reverting to my original point, people on the cutting edge of pc tech won't find the IQ of the new consoles impressive, at least not with the first or maybe second generation of games, eventually, when they develop engines custom to the specific hardware and milk as much power as possible from them, they're going to be on par and in some ways better than current PC titles - but this is a software difference only.

With that said, the first gen of games won't utilize even half the power available efficiently, and be running engines that have been customized quickly to get the game development up and running in time for launch - the real gems are going to be appearing in a year or two's time.

I miss the days when the PC wasn't treated as a glorified console but was a distinct, complimentary platform.

In Korea I'm sure most of those cards are bought by PC "cafes" rather than consumers.

Console gamer rationalizations are fun. I'm a console guy myself (rockin an off the shelf 300 dollar laptop). Consoles do have advantages. Exclusives, simplicity, never having to upgrade, far more of my friends use them for multiplayer, and so on. Image quality however is not one of console gaming's advantages.