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Trunkin said:
They basically sent the game out to die with their attitude.

yeah pretty much

i think it's a tie between DmC and PSASBR for the most disgraceful death



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RazorDragon said:

They brought that upon themselves by disrespecting the fanbase. If they want to blame someone, it should be Capcom for rebooting something that didn't need a reboot.


Not to mention at the end of a system's lifecycle,  who would have thought this would be a major seller, honestly.  Even Call of Duty is seeing slower sales here.

 

I think it is massively ignorant to blame the fans.



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Trunkin said:
So, let me get this straight. They completely change the well loved main character, make drastic changes to the gameplay, ignore all complaints by the fans--going so far as to troll them with that ridiculous little "Dante Wig" scene, and generally take a massive shit all over the original fanbase, and it's the fan's fault that the game flopped? Now, I am by no means a DMC fan, but what the hell did Capcom expect after the crap they pulled? They basically sent the game out to die with their attitude.

er, no, they just changed the characters hair.



seiya19 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Thing is Dante's character does't even get anywhere close to himself.  Either as the brooding man in the first game, or the over the top joker in the third/fourth game.  Zero is just mentioning that his hair color turns completely white in the last cutscene of the game.

Well, I did read some comments that claimed this Dante "evolved" throughout the game, although I also read people disagreeing, so I don't know... I have to give the benefit of the doubt here... What's your take here ?

And I want to believe that zero129 was talking about more than just the hair when he brought that up...

Dante's character doesn't really change throughout the game.  Unless you consider him falling in love change, which isn't really too implicit either.  It's pretty much what you see is what you get.  It's just to show that he's started using his devil powers he gets a white patch after you get devil trigger.  Then in the last cutscene his hair completely turns white, that's pretty much it.  Ninja Thoery pretty much created the hipster version of Dante and that never changes in the game.



darkknightkryta said:
seiya19 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Thing is Dante's character does't even get anywhere close to himself.  Either as the brooding man in the first game, or the over the top joker in the third/fourth game.  Zero is just mentioning that his hair color turns completely white in the last cutscene of the game.

Well, I did read some comments that claimed this Dante "evolved" throughout the game, although I also read people disagreeing, so I don't know... I have to give the benefit of the doubt here... What's your take here ?

And I want to believe that zero129 was talking about more than just the hair when he brought that up...

Dante's character doesn't really change throughout the game.  Unless you consider him falling in love change, which isn't really too implicit either.  It's pretty much what you see is what you get.  It's just to show that he's started using his devil powers he gets a white patch after you get devil trigger.  Then in the last cutscene his hair completely turns white, that's pretty much it.  Ninja Thoery pretty much created the hipster version of Dante and that never changes in the game.

Thats where your wrong as the game goes on your can see him becoming more mature, he starts to care about other people more etc. I wouldnt just call that "He starts to fall in love" unless you want to over simplify his charactars development.



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zero129 said:
darkknightkryta said:
seiya19 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Thing is Dante's character does't even get anywhere close to himself.  Either as the brooding man in the first game, or the over the top joker in the third/fourth game.  Zero is just mentioning that his hair color turns completely white in the last cutscene of the game.

Well, I did read some comments that claimed this Dante "evolved" throughout the game, although I also read people disagreeing, so I don't know... I have to give the benefit of the doubt here... What's your take here ?

And I want to believe that zero129 was talking about more than just the hair when he brought that up...

Dante's character doesn't really change throughout the game.  Unless you consider him falling in love change, which isn't really too implicit either.  It's pretty much what you see is what you get.  It's just to show that he's started using his devil powers he gets a white patch after you get devil trigger.  Then in the last cutscene his hair completely turns white, that's pretty much it.  Ninja Thoery pretty much created the hipster version of Dante and that never changes in the game.

Thats where your wrong as the game goes on your can see him becoming more mature, he starts to care about other people more etc. I wouldnt just call that "He starts to fall in love" unless you want to over simplify his charactars development.

You're assuming he never cared in the first place.  He wouldn't have accepted Virgil's proposal if he didn't.  He never became more mature he stayed the same, unless there's some cutscene I missed.  Only thing that develops is his interest in Kat.

Edit: And he finds out about his heritage, which doesn't change the way he behaves.



darkknightkryta said:
seiya19 said:
darkknightkryta said:

Thing is Dante's character does't even get anywhere close to himself.  Either as the brooding man in the first game, or the over the top joker in the third/fourth game.  Zero is just mentioning that his hair color turns completely white in the last cutscene of the game.

Well, I did read some comments that claimed this Dante "evolved" throughout the game, although I also read people disagreeing, so I don't know... I have to give the benefit of the doubt here... What's your take here ?

And I want to believe that zero129 was talking about more than just the hair when he brought that up...

Dante's character doesn't really change throughout the game.  Unless you consider him falling in love change, which isn't really too implicit either.  It's pretty much what you see is what you get.  It's just to show that he's started using his devil powers he gets a white patch after you get devil trigger.  Then in the last cutscene his hair completely turns white, that's pretty much it.  Ninja Thoery pretty much created the hipster version of Dante and that never changes in the game.

I see... Having seen another review on Youtube today that focused on the story (a silly, silly review...), I tend to agree with you. It just seems that the character doesn't react much to the events of the game... Even when he supposedly cares, you don't see it reflected on himself, just on his actions. I don't see any sign of it becoming a character I could identify with. And while I don't consider that to be an absolute requirement to enjoy a story, it's something that needs to be compensated somehow...

To each his own though.



seiya19 said:

I see... Having seen another review on Youtube today that focused on the story (a silly, silly review...), I tend to agree with you. It just seems that the character doesn't react much to the events of the game... Even when he supposedly cares, you don't see it reflected on himself, just on his actions. I don't see any sign of it becoming a character I could identify with. And while I don't consider that to be an absolute requirement to enjoy a story, it's something that needs to be compensated somehow...

To each his own though.

It's not like Dante doesn't have any personality in this game, cause he does, it's just what you see is what you get.  You find out about his heritage, the story progresses nicely, but Dante himself doesn't have much character development.  Story has a lot of development though.



DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Trunkin said:
They basically sent the game out to die with their attitude.

yeah pretty much

i think it's a tie between DmC and PSASBR for the most disgraceful death

I don't know. I think FF13 Lightning Returns could beat them to the punch.

FF13-2 sold less than half the copies of FF13, and its not like they tried to chance the name of FF13-3 to Lightning Returns to avoid the stigma of the FF13 brand... oh wait they did.

Not to mention the game is going to feature some awsome dress up action. How can the game fail.

Its not like its rumoured they want to launch FF13 Versus to the PS4 now because the reputation of the FF13 might affect the sales.

But I guess all that is NInja Theory's fault right!



A203D said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Trunkin said:
They basically sent the game out to die with their attitude.

yeah pretty much

i think it's a tie between DmC and PSASBR for the most disgraceful death

I don't know. I think FF13 Lightning Returns could beat them to the punch.

FF13-2 sold less than half the copies of FF13, and its not like they tried to chance the name of FF13-3 to Lightning Returns to avoid the stigma of the FF13 brand... oh wait they did.

Not to mention the game is going to feature some awsome dress up action. How can the game fail.

Its not like its rumoured they want to launch FF13 Versus to the PS4 now because the reputation of the FF13 might affect the sales.

But I guess all that is NInja Theory's fault right!

You mean dressing Lightning up like a rummage sale reject, a sexy samaurai, a princess, in fish boots (70's style like a baller, bitch!), in a fish belt, like a clown, and like Serah even though "Our costumes reflect the character's personality in Final Fantasy" ISN'T to your liking?

(Yes, this is meant to be sarcastic)



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