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Hyruken on 07 February 2013
pezus said:
Hyruken said:
Got to laugh. Only fan boys could celebrate a company posting losses....again.
Sony really are hanging on by their finger tips now.

Actually, that is the opposite of a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who cheers on a company only because they're profiting, which does not affect them at all. We like Sony because of its products. not because of its money. 



A fanboy is someone who will ignore the obvious negatives and try and spin those negatives into something positive. Someone who truely cared about a company would be worried when numbers like these are posted. They just cut their forecast by 50%...

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sales2099 on 07 February 2013
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
pezus said:
Hyruken said:
Got to laugh. Only fan boys could celebrate a company posting losses....again.
Sony really are hanging on by their finger tips now.

Actually, that is the opposite of a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who cheers on a company only because they're profiting, which does not affect them at all. We like Sony because of its products. not because of its money. 

A fanboy also rationalizes when they are not profiting.

Huh, a fanboy is not rational. You're contradicting statements

We get it, you want Sony fans to feel bad. They can't have any fun ever because their favourite company is losing money. Boohoo.

Jesus, I feel sorry for some people.

A fanboy can be rational too. What a misconception.....you confuse loyalty with irrationality.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 07 February 2013
ethomaz said:

That's bot a good estimation but here we go...

Q1 FY2011

PS3+PS2 =  3.2m
PS3 = 1.8m (56%)

Q2 FY2011

PS3+PS2 =  4.9m
PS3 = 3.7m (76%)

Q3 FY2011

PS3+PS2 =  7.4m
PS3 = 6.5m (88%)

 

Using the same PS3 ratio from last year to this year (even so I think the PS2 drop is bigger than PS3).

 

Q1 FY2012

PS3+PS2 =  2.8m
PS3 = 2.4m (estimated - 66.3m LTD)

Q2 FY2012

PS3+PS2 =  3.5m
PS3 = 2.7m (estimated - 69.0m LTD)

Sony reported 70 million PS3 shipped as of November 4th, 2012 * my estimate fits *

Q3 FY2012

PS3+PS2 =  6.8m
PS3 = 6.0m (estimated - 75.0m LTD)

 

That's is what I can do for you guys.

 

so when would you estimate PS3 to shipp 80m, and do you think PS3 will shipp 80m before 360?



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bertlsenix on 07 February 2013
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
pezus said:
Hyruken said:
Got to laugh. Only fan boys could celebrate a company posting losses....again.
Sony really are hanging on by their finger tips now.

Actually, that is the opposite of a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who cheers on a company only because they're profiting, which does not affect them at all. We like Sony because of its products. not because of its money. 

A fanboy also rationalizes when they are not profiting.

Huh, a fanboy is not rational. You're contradicting statements

We get it, you want Sony fans to feel bad. They can't have any fun ever because their favourite company is losing money. Boohoo.

Jesus, I feel sorry for some people.

He is just sad his beloved company doesn't have any games since 2008 and isn't bringing something new.But they look happy with buying the same game over and over again.

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What do we see there?
We see the PS3 is undertracked here but we already knew that a long time.
We know the PS3 is the best selling HD Console of this Gen and overall the 2nd place in a ranking with the Wii.
We know we had the best games in this Generation and how much Sony did invest into its community to please them.We even get new expensive IPs in 2013.
We also know that every other segment of Sony is completely stupid and losing money.Will hopefully change with the things they do at the company.

And how things are turned out we all know the PS4 will be even better cause they managed to become their best self after the bad start of the PS3.

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MARCUSDJACKSON on 07 February 2013
kowenicki said:
surprised nobody has picked up on the PSv + PSP forecast drop... thats really bad.


i asked ethomaz thsi same question. when do you thnik PS3 will ship 80m and do you think it will happen before 360 does?



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TheSource on 07 February 2013

The PSP + Vita forecast was finally lowered to sensible nummbers - 7m for the year to March 2013. I think the PS3 + PS2 figure is pretty close to reality, but probably 0.5m higher, they'll likely be around 12.5m PS3s, 3m PS2s for the year.

Your loss number is wrong by the way, 10.72 Yen is the loss per ordinary share (like $0.01 per share), the loss in the quarter was 10.8b Yen.

They're at a 50.9b Yen loss for Apr-Dec 2012 if you by slide nine in the link below, $541m at the current exchange rate, not seeing how they're supposed to profit 20b Yen for the year ($212m), it would take a $750m profit in the fourth quarter...

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/viewer/12q3/



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Turkish on 07 February 2013
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
ethomaz said:

That's bot a good estimation but here we go...

Q1 FY2011

PS3+PS2 =  3.2m
PS3 = 1.8m (56%)

Q2 FY2011

PS3+PS2 =  4.9m
PS3 = 3.7m (76%)

Q3 FY2011

PS3+PS2 =  7.4m
PS3 = 6.5m (88%)

 

Using the same PS3 ratio from last year to this year (even so I think the PS2 drop is bigger than PS3).

 

Q1 FY2012

PS3+PS2 =  2.8m
PS3 = 2.4m (estimated - 66.3m LTD)

Q2 FY2012

PS3+PS2 =  3.5m
PS3 = 2.7m (estimated - 69.0m LTD)

Sony reported 70 million PS3 shipped as of November 4th, 2012 * my estimate fits *

Q3 FY2012

PS3+PS2 =  6.8m
PS3 = 6.0m (estimated - 75.0m LTD)

 

That's is what I can do for you guys.

 

so when would you estimate PS3 to shipp 80m, and do you think PS3 will shipp 80m before 360?


I guess around october you'll hear Sony saying they shipped 80m PS3s.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 07 February 2013
zhao3gold said:
I really have no idea what softwares can save Vita. In my opinion, PSV arleady had many decent softwares, like Uncharted, AC, COD, Resistance, Mortal Kombat, Gravity Rush, MGS HD and so on. If these software didn't work, what will work for Vita?

i'm several hours late, but a pricecut would deinaely help but i don't think profit would come from doing so.



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ethomaz on 07 February 2013

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

so when would you estimate PS3 to shipp 80m, and do you think PS3 will shipp 80m before 360?

Using the rounded numbers...

360: 76m
PS3: 75m

Plus estimate for Q4 FY2012 (Sony) / Q3 FY2013 (Microsoft)

360: 1.1m (77.1m LT)
PS3: 1.6m (76.6m LT)

Plus estimate for Q1 FY2013 (Sony) / Q4 FY2013 (Microsoft)

360: 0.9m (78.0m LT)
PS3: 2.1m (78.7m LT)

 

So in the Apr-Jun quarter PS3 outship 360 (there are a good margin for that) and in Jul-Sep quarter PS3 reach 80 million... with a price cut near 87 million at the end of 2013.

That's my prediction.



sales2099 on 07 February 2013
bertlsenix said:
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
pezus said:
Hyruken said:
Got to laugh. Only fan boys could celebrate a company posting losses....again.
Sony really are hanging on by their finger tips now.

Actually, that is the opposite of a fanboy. A fanboy is someone who cheers on a company only because they're profiting, which does not affect them at all. We like Sony because of its products. not because of its money. 

A fanboy also rationalizes when they are not profiting.

Huh, a fanboy is not rational. You're contradicting statements

We get it, you want Sony fans to feel bad. They can't have any fun ever because their favourite company is losing money. Boohoo.

Jesus, I feel sorry for some people.

He is just sad his beloved company doesn't have any games since 2008 and isn't bringing something new.But they look happy with buying the same game over and over again.

@Thread
What do we see there?
We see the PS3 is undertracked here but we already knew that a long time.
We know the PS3 is the best selling HD Console of this Gen and overall the 2nd place in a ranking with the Wii.
We know we had the best games in this Generation and how much Sony did invest into its community to please them.We even get new expensive IPs in 2013.
We also know that every other segment of Sony is completely stupid and losing money.Will hopefully change with the things they do at the company.

And how things are turned out we all know the PS4 will be even better cause they managed to become their best self after the bad start of the PS3.

Couldnt be happier with my 360.You do know 360 has more 70-79, 80-89, 90+ games on metacritic then PS3.......

Your post just screams spinning losses into something good. Meanwhile MS pofited 6+ billion.



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