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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony Q3 FY2012 - $124m loss, PS3+PS2 6.8m, PSV+PSP 2.7m

ethomaz on 07 February 2013

The game division almost doubled the Operation Incoming... good.



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man-bear-pig on 07 February 2013

Damn @ that Vita+PSP forecast. Maybe they're not planning a PSV price-cut this year after all...



My prediction threads:

Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)

PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)

Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right

Halo 4 first 9 weeks sales prediction

PS4 to be down YOY in 2015

Kynes on 07 February 2013
ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

but they also predict a drop in hardware sales across the board from previous estimates.  the only reason that stays the same is due to the building sale.

thats bad.

The ~$600m is to be posted in Q4... I'm just saying what the news about Q3 are saying... the company go back to operation profit.

It's not bad... even stocks are up after hours (well I don't know what means after hours).

Edit - After Hours: 16.26 +0.44 (2.78%) 

Having to sell a 1.1 billion US$ to barely have profits is something you can't do every year. Being an electronics company and losing money in the most profitable quarter of the year tells you the real situation of the company.



Vinniegambini on 07 February 2013
ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

but they also predict a drop in hardware sales across the board from previous estimates.  the only reason that stays the same is due to the building sale.

thats bad.

The ~$600m is to be posted in Q4... I'm just saying what the news about Q3 are saying... the company go back to operation profit.

It's not bad... even stocks are up after hours (well I don't know what means after hours).

Edit - After Hours: 16.26 +0.44 (2.78%) 

After hours are between 4:00pm-8:00pm (when stock market is closed). As a result, the Q3 results are not reflected in the performance of the stock durng the after hours trade. One should expect a delcine tomorrow.



Kasz216 on 07 February 2013
ethomaz said:
Kasz216 said:

I think people are oversestimating the loss.  I think the street expecting a loss.

The loss is not bad because Sony go back to operation profit... so they stays on track for full-year operating profit.

The latest year are really bad... so this loss is not that bad.

This reply is confusing me... I feel like you don't know the difference between operating income and net income.

http://www.businesssense.com.ph/operating_income_vs_net_income



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donsterydo2 on 07 February 2013

Some people tend to forget that Vita+PSP forecast was 14m - 10m was after the first forecast cut and... they cut the forecast every quarter so now it's 7m instead of planned 14m.



Kynes on 07 February 2013
donsterydo2 said:
Some people tend to forget that Vita+PSP forecast was 14m - 10m was after the first forecast cut and... they cut the forecast every quarter so now it's 7m instead of planned 14m.


Wasn't it 16 millions (10m vita + 6m PSP)?



ethomaz on 07 February 2013

Guys... it's not me saying the Q3 results is not bad... it's the market... I don't need answer for that because I have no knowledge about that.

- Half a billion op profit
- Game profitable

Compared to last year results... you can't call that bad.



Vinniegambini on 07 February 2013
Kynes said:
ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

but they also predict a drop in hardware sales across the board from previous estimates.  the only reason that stays the same is due to the building sale.

thats bad.

The ~$600m is to be posted in Q4... I'm just saying what the news about Q3 are saying... the company go back to operation profit.

It's not bad... even stocks are up after hours (well I don't know what means after hours).

Edit - After Hours: 16.26 +0.44 (2.78%) 

Having to sell a 1.1 billion US$ to barely have profits is something you can't do every year. Being an electronics company and losing money in the most profitable quarter of the year tells you the real situation of the company.

The situation is dire. Furthermore, judging by Nikkei reports that the PS4 will launch at over 400$, thus effectively catering to more 'high-end' consumers, Sony is again in the same situation as the PS3, a money losing business. Expect more losses in the gaming division.



Turkish on 07 February 2013


"It would be nice if everyone made hardware predictions. Here's mine:
PS3: 5.4m
PS2: 1.1m
PSV: 3.2m
PSP: 1.1m

They could group PS3+PS2 and PSV+PSP together, then we'll see 6.5m and 4.3m respectively."

 

 

Underestimated consoles but overestimated portables.