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PScollector on 25 February 2013
scottie said:
PScollector.

Yes clearly, it is the rise of an extra, extremely profitable market for video game developers that video game retailers are going bankrupt.

Lets say I am a coconut farmer. I usually grow coconuts and sell them for $1 each. It costs me $0.50 in fertilizer per coconut I grow.

Now lets say a new market opens up, for coconut flavoured soft drink, which has such a low amount of coconut in it, I can make coconut drinks with 1 coconut, and sell each for $0.20, for a total revenue of $2.00

Now, lets imagine the price of fertiliser increases to $1.50.

I am now unable to make a profit selling whole coconuts, I am forced to rely on coconut drink to break even.

Is it the new coconut drink market that is bankrupting me, or the price of fertiliser?

Your still talking about the cost of developing software, and what I said in my previous post where the measures being taking 2 help ease costs as well as other reasons, how much do you think the cost of games 2 buy will rise next gen? I can say they will stay the same. The PS4 and 720 being more powerfull with new features will help dev's not criple them as many of them have already pointed out.  Another point is the Wii U? (not 2 be hating on the console) but if its not pushing for power etc and the dev costs are not as hurtfull as say creating a game for the PS3/4/Xbox360/Xbox 720? why do most 3rd party devs seem 2 be skipping over it? its cheaper yes? and not following the traditional power path?



 

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MDMAlliance on 25 February 2013

I'm surprised people are still posting in this. Nintendo fans do not hate Sony.
Fanboys hate.



PScollector on 25 February 2013

Im down for some Nintendo :)



 

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Otakumegane on 25 February 2013
PScollector said:
scottie said:
PScollector.

Yes clearly, it is the rise of an extra, extremely profitable market for video game developers that video game retailers are going bankrupt.

Lets say I am a coconut farmer. I usually grow coconuts and sell them for $1 each. It costs me $0.50 in fertilizer per coconut I grow.

Now lets say a new market opens up, for coconut flavoured soft drink, which has such a low amount of coconut in it, I can make coconut drinks with 1 coconut, and sell each for $0.20, for a total revenue of $2.00

Now, lets imagine the price of fertiliser increases to $1.50.

I am now unable to make a profit selling whole coconuts, I am forced to rely on coconut drink to break even.

Is it the new coconut drink market that is bankrupting me, or the price of fertiliser?

Your still talking about the cost of developing software, and what I said in my previous post where the measures being taking 2 help ease costs as well as other reasons, how much do you think the cost of games 2 buy will rise next gen? I can say they will stay the same. The PS4 and 720 being more powerfull with new features will help dev's not criple them as many of them have already pointed out.  Another point is the Wii U? (not 2 be hating on the console) but if its not pushing for power etc and the dev costs are not as hurtfull as say creating a game for the PS3/4/Xbox360/Xbox 720? why do most 3rd party devs seem 2 be skipping over it? its cheaper yes? and not following the traditional power path?


2 things.

One is that competing with Nintendo with similar franchises is suicide, they have too much of a name and quality.

The other is that squeezing out power from Nintendo's hardware is a lot of work and some developers just don't bother because it's too hard.



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PScollector on 25 February 2013
Otakumegane said:
PScollector said:
scottie said:
PScollector.

Yes clearly, it is the rise of an extra, extremely profitable market for video game developers that video game retailers are going bankrupt.

Lets say I am a coconut farmer. I usually grow coconuts and sell them for $1 each. It costs me $0.50 in fertilizer per coconut I grow.

Now lets say a new market opens up, for coconut flavoured soft drink, which has such a low amount of coconut in it, I can make coconut drinks with 1 coconut, and sell each for $0.20, for a total revenue of $2.00

Now, lets imagine the price of fertiliser increases to $1.50.

I am now unable to make a profit selling whole coconuts, I am forced to rely on coconut drink to break even.

Is it the new coconut drink market that is bankrupting me, or the price of fertiliser?

Your still talking about the cost of developing software, and what I said in my previous post where the measures being taking 2 help ease costs as well as other reasons, how much do you think the cost of games 2 buy will rise next gen? I can say they will stay the same. The PS4 and 720 being more powerfull with new features will help dev's not criple them as many of them have already pointed out.  Another point is the Wii U? (not 2 be hating on the console) but if its not pushing for power etc and the dev costs are not as hurtfull as say creating a game for the PS3/4/Xbox360/Xbox 720? why do most 3rd party devs seem 2 be skipping over it? its cheaper yes? and not following the traditional power path?


2 things.

One is that competing with Nintendo with similar franchises is suicide, they have too much of a name and quality.

The other is that squeezing out power from Nintendo's hardware is a lot of work and some developers just don't bother because it's too hard.

Both valid points.



 

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scottie on 25 February 2013
PScollector said:
scottie said:
PScollector.

Yes clearly, it is the rise of an extra, extremely profitable market for video game developers that video game retailers are going bankrupt.

Lets say I am a coconut farmer. I usually grow coconuts and sell them for $1 each. It costs me $0.50 in fertilizer per coconut I grow.

Now lets say a new market opens up, for coconut flavoured soft drink, which has such a low amount of coconut in it, I can make coconut drinks with 1 coconut, and sell each for $0.20, for a total revenue of $2.00

Now, lets imagine the price of fertiliser increases to $1.50.

I am now unable to make a profit selling whole coconuts, I am forced to rely on coconut drink to break even.

Is it the new coconut drink market that is bankrupting me, or the price of fertiliser?

Your still talking about the cost of developing software, and what I said in my previous post where the measures being taking 2 help ease costs as well as other reasons, how much do you think the cost of games 2 buy will rise next gen? I can say they will stay the same. The PS4 and 720 being more powerfull with new features will help dev's not criple them as many of them have already pointed out.  Another point is the Wii U? (not 2 be hating on the console) but if its not pushing for power etc and the dev costs are not as hurtfull as say creating a game for the PS3/4/Xbox360/Xbox 720? why do most 3rd party devs seem 2 be skipping over it? its cheaper yes? and not following the traditional power path?


That's what my point about no free lunch is addressing.

 

If a company spends more on graphics for their game (increased costs) then they have to compromise elsewhere (decrease costs), sell their game for more, or make less money. This is from the very simple equation Profit = Revenue - Expenses.

 

If they increase the price I pay, then that's bad because I have to pay more.

If they decrease costs elsewhere, that's bad, because I like well made games with good gameplay and no bugs etc more than I care about graphics.

If they do neither, then next gen we will continue to see companies go bankrupt, which means less games for me.

 

The 'price' of the PS3/4s graphics is not one you pay in RRP, but you pay the price regardless.