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dsgrue3 on 31 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
dsgrue3 said:
bananaking21 said:

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

Huh? If you're poor you cannot receive good grades? LOL


no. bet lets not act nieve and act like richer kids dont recieve a better edjucation in general. 

I would argue that is a product of environment rather than school. Parents were rich because they worked hard; they encourage their offspring to work hard. You could send a poor kid to the best schools, but if the aptitude isn't there it isn't there. College isn't for everyone. 



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Max King of the Wild on 31 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
dsgrue3 said:
bananaking21 said:

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

Huh? If you're poor you cannot receive good grades? LOL


no. bet lets not act nieve and act like richer kids dont recieve a better edjucation in general. 

Yeah, but at the same time the richer kids are also graded at a higher level. 60% of high school graduates in Chicago are not ready for college... yet they recieved passing grades for their classes and these are the records colleges are going to look at while determining scholarships.



bananaking21 on 31 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
badgenome said:
Max King of the Wild said:

My contribution to this thread would be something like this. People of minority get more scholarship opportunities than white males... makes no sense. It should be determined by sheer intelligence... because someone is black they get to pay less for school. Stupidest shit I've heard. When I was filing out scholarship applications at my school I came across one that said you have to be black and less than 3.0GPA... so we are rewarding people for being dumb

If they really want to help disadvantaged people, they should do it on the basis of means.



Means would be some sort of qualifier but I still don't agree with giving dumb people money just because they are poor. A scholarship represents a investment in my opinion and investing in a bad stock is a bad idea.

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

That is just a silly argument. Poor people (like myself) can get straight A's... what you said is just completely inaccurate. My income last year was 12,000 dollars which is poverty standing.


i didnt say that poor people cant recieve high grades, i said poor people dont have the same means to recieve higher grades like rich people do (private schools and private lessons for example)



Max King of the Wild on 31 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
badgenome said:
Max King of the Wild said:

My contribution to this thread would be something like this. People of minority get more scholarship opportunities than white males... makes no sense. It should be determined by sheer intelligence... because someone is black they get to pay less for school. Stupidest shit I've heard. When I was filing out scholarship applications at my school I came across one that said you have to be black and less than 3.0GPA... so we are rewarding people for being dumb

If they really want to help disadvantaged people, they should do it on the basis of means.



Means would be some sort of qualifier but I still don't agree with giving dumb people money just because they are poor. A scholarship represents a investment in my opinion and investing in a bad stock is a bad idea.

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

That is just a silly argument. Poor people (like myself) can get straight A's... what you said is just completely inaccurate. My income last year was 12,000 dollars which is poverty standing.


i didnt say that poor people cant recieve high grades, i said poor people dont have the same means to recieve higher grades like rich people do (private schools and private lessons for example)



Okay, so we should waste money on dumb people who wont excell in college or a job afterward? There are other oppertunities for people like that. Leave the money and resources for people who have a promising future in education. Invest in smart people will do a lot more for the country than investing in people who might not make it past their freshmen year of college



silicon on 31 January 2013

Racism is basically treating someone unfairly.

This concept is so rooted in our nature that chimps behave the same way.

http://healthyliving.msn.com/pregnancy-parenting/kids-health/chimpanzees-like-humans-seem-to-have-sense-of-fairness



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bananaking21 on 31 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
badgenome said:
Max King of the Wild said:

My contribution to this thread would be something like this. People of minority get more scholarship opportunities than white males... makes no sense. It should be determined by sheer intelligence... because someone is black they get to pay less for school. Stupidest shit I've heard. When I was filing out scholarship applications at my school I came across one that said you have to be black and less than 3.0GPA... so we are rewarding people for being dumb

If they really want to help disadvantaged people, they should do it on the basis of means.



Means would be some sort of qualifier but I still don't agree with giving dumb people money just because they are poor. A scholarship represents a investment in my opinion and investing in a bad stock is a bad idea.

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

That is just a silly argument. Poor people (like myself) can get straight A's... what you said is just completely inaccurate. My income last year was 12,000 dollars which is poverty standing.


i didnt say that poor people cant recieve high grades, i said poor people dont have the same means to recieve higher grades like rich people do (private schools and private lessons for example)



Okay, so we should waste money on dumb people who wont excell in college or a job afterward?

how do you know that they wont get a job after? 



bananaking21 on 31 January 2013
dsgrue3 said:
bananaking21 said:
dsgrue3 said:
bananaking21 said:

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

Huh? If you're poor you cannot receive good grades? LOL


no. bet lets not act nieve and act like richer kids dont recieve a better edjucation in general. 

I would argue that is a product of environment rather than school. Parents were rich because they worked hard; they encourage their offspring to work hard. You could send a poor kid to the best schools, but if the aptitude isn't there it isn't there. College isn't for everyone. 


there are too many variebles when thinking that way, i agree that an environment effects a kid heavly when studying, but that doesnt mean when somebody is rich their kids will work harder and when a kids parents are poor doesnt mean they wont work hard.



dsgrue3 on 31 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:


Okay, so we should waste money on dumb people who wont excell in college or a job afterward?

how do you know that they wont get a job after? 

Poor grades in high school and you think that individual can handle a college curriculum?



Max King of the Wild on 31 January 2013
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
bananaking21 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
badgenome said:
Max King of the Wild said:

My contribution to this thread would be something like this. People of minority get more scholarship opportunities than white males... makes no sense. It should be determined by sheer intelligence... because someone is black they get to pay less for school. Stupidest shit I've heard. When I was filing out scholarship applications at my school I came across one that said you have to be black and less than 3.0GPA... so we are rewarding people for being dumb

If they really want to help disadvantaged people, they should do it on the basis of means.



Means would be some sort of qualifier but I still don't agree with giving dumb people money just because they are poor. A scholarship represents a investment in my opinion and investing in a bad stock is a bad idea.

now your discriminating against the poor because they dont have the same means of edjucation to recieve high grades. even if lets say that that a poor kid and rich kid are going to the same school, the rich kid is getting higher grades. who should recieve the scholorship? definatly the poor kid. the rich kid has the money to recieve an edjucation, the poor kid doesnt. this way you have two people getting edjucated instead of one

That is just a silly argument. Poor people (like myself) can get straight A's... what you said is just completely inaccurate. My income last year was 12,000 dollars which is poverty standing.


i didnt say that poor people cant recieve high grades, i said poor people dont have the same means to recieve higher grades like rich people do (private schools and private lessons for example)



Okay, so we should waste money on dumb people who wont excell in college or a job afterward?

how do you know that they wont get a job after? 


Because jobs of importance require things such as internships and look at grades and other stuff. Internships are going to be more availble for the people who work with professors and excell in the class room.

Even if they do get a decent job if they didn't have a firm grip of the concepts in school they will struggle in their job and most likely wont last long hence the part you missed stating "excell in college or a job"



Max King of the Wild on 31 January 2013

Dumb people can go to a technical school or get certificates in a community college. Sheet metal working pays like 20 dollars an hour. It's not like people who failed in school don't have a future. There are still great paying jobs for those people out there