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Will next gen be better for JRPG's?

Yes 37 35.24%
 
No 36 34.29%
 
What happened to Square Enix? 32 30.48%
 
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NobleTeam360 said:
DanneSandin said:
I've never played JRPG's until this gen actually... You should definitely try out Xenoblade!! Great game. And I'm confident we'll see even more great JRPG's going into this new generation.


Yeah I was going to wait and Purchase a Wii U and then Get games like Xenoblade (even if I have to pay $100 for a copy) and The Last Story. 

Oh yeah, TLS was a JRPG as well! Good find :D sounds like a good idea, and while you're at it, you better get Monoliths new as well ^^



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DanneSandin said:
NobleTeam360 said:
DanneSandin said:
I've never played JRPG's until this gen actually... You should definitely try out Xenoblade!! Great game. And I'm confident we'll see even more great JRPG's going into this new generation.


Yeah I was going to wait and Purchase a Wii U and then Get games like Xenoblade (even if I have to pay $100 for a copy) and The Last Story. 

Oh yeah, TLS was a JRPG as well! Good find :D sounds like a good idea, and while you're at it, you better get Monoliths new as well ^^

I definetly will be getting Monoliths new game when it releases.



enditall727 said:
ishiki said:

I didn't really think PS2 had many JRPG's last gen either... atleast compared to PSX. This gen had a lot better new IP's imo.

This Gen has a fair amount I really like. I don't like tales of, Star Ocean, Or Xenosaga (great story, dreadful gameplay). Obviously there's some I haven't played, but There's plenty I liked. Final Fantasy has gotten worse but final fantasy =/= JRPG's.

TWEWY
Radiant Historia
Nino Kuni 
Xenoblade
FFXIII-2
Lost Odyssey
Valkyria Chronicles
Demon Soul's
Pokemon
Kingdom Hearts BBS
Chaos Rings II
Legend of Heroes: Trails In The Sky!
FF, DQ Remakes
DQ IX

Last Gen Had
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Valkryrie Profile: Slimeria.
Persona 3: FES
Persona 4 (these 2 were released this gen though)
Nocturne
Pokemon
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
DQ VIII

smh

 

last gen had way more than that..

this guy clearly doesnt know what he is talking about with ps2 u left ouf alot of series! smh....



I agree, almost all RPG's have drifted into action territory, especially the critically and commercially acclaimed ones, this sends signals to the industry that this is the way to go.
The industry doesn't want to make great and deep RPG's, they want to make money. Attempting both is too great a risk for many.
Bioware and Bethesda are the perfect examples of what I mean, the RPG genre is dying a slow death, one of the biggest proponents for true RPG elements in a game in the 7th generation is, amazingly enough, a FPS game of all things.



NobleTeam360 said:
DanneSandin said:
NobleTeam360 said:
DanneSandin said:
I've never played JRPG's until this gen actually... You should definitely try out Xenoblade!! Great game. And I'm confident we'll see even more great JRPG's going into this new generation.


Yeah I was going to wait and Purchase a Wii U and then Get games like Xenoblade (even if I have to pay $100 for a copy) and The Last Story. 

Oh yeah, TLS was a JRPG as well! Good find :D sounds like a good idea, and while you're at it, you better get Monoliths new as well ^^

I definetly will be getting Monoliths new game when it releases.

Sounds good! I only hope they can keep up the quality and make another great game



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Yes, but at least we got one of the best in Xenoblade.



Soriku said:
ishiki said:

Last Gen Had
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Valkryrie Profile: Slimeria.
Persona 3: FES
Persona 4 (these 2 were released this gen though)
Nocturne
Pokemon
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
DQ VIII


+

Digital Devil Saga
Digital Devil Saga 2
Devil Summoner: Raidou 2
Xenosaga 1
Xenosaga 2
Xenosaga 3 (the gameplay in 1/2 is just alright, 2 had more depth, but 3 is a great RPG in every aspect)
Star Ocean 3
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Dark Cloud 2
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Wild Arms 5
.hack GU Vol 3
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Baten Kaitos 1
Baten Kaitos Origins
Skies of Arcadia Legends

...These are just the ones I've played that you missed. Anyone else feel free to add ones I missed like Shadow Hearts 1, the rest of the .hack games (5 other games...), Rogue Galaxy, Disgaea, Mana Khemia, Atelier, other Wild Arms, Dark Cloud 1, Raidou 1, whatever...

You're seriously missing a lot of good last gen RPGs. Out of the ones I listed the only ones I didn't like that much were Suikoden III and maybe Xenosaga 1. Kind of the DDS series but only for the high encounter rate; eveything else was good.

enditall727 said:
think? LOL

that was the main problem with this generation

Sony is to blame for the japanese decline this gen honestly


Why do you say that?



thank u dude i though only i saw that he didnt have a clue wa he was talking!



lots of jrpgs appeared on the 360 early this gen and it did not go well

MS never really gave them the spotlight and 360 fans never rewarded them with sales

it took the Japanese some years until recently that they started getting out of their shell once again this time on the PS3

...and Atlus is absent.



Soriku said:
ishiki said:

Last Gen Had
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Valkryrie Profile: Slimeria.
Persona 3: FES
Persona 4 (these 2 were released this gen though)
Nocturne
Pokemon
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts 2
DQ VIII


+

Digital Devil Saga
Digital Devil Saga 2
Devil Summoner: Raidou 2
Xenosaga 1
Xenosaga 2
Xenosaga 3 (the gameplay in 1/2 is just alright, 2 had more depth, but 3 is a great RPG in every aspect)
Star Ocean 3
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Dark Cloud 2
Suikoden III
Suikoden V
Wild Arms 5
.hack GU Vol 3
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of the Abyss
Baten Kaitos 1
Baten Kaitos Origins
Skies of Arcadia Legends

...These are just the ones I've played that you missed. Anyone else feel free to add ones I missed like Shadow Hearts 1, the rest of the .hack games (5 other games...), Rogue Galaxy, Disgaea, Mana Khemia, Atelier, other Wild Arms, Dark Cloud 1, Raidou 1, whatever...

You're seriously missing a lot of good last gen RPGs. Out of the ones I listed the only ones I didn't like that much were Suikoden III and maybe Xenosaga 1. Kind of the DDS series but only for the high encounter rate; eveything else was good.

enditall727 said:
think? LOL

that was the main problem with this generation

Sony is to blame for the japanese decline this gen honestly


Why do you say that?

In the home console space, the japanese market pretty much thrives on the Sony platforms

 

notice how the japanese market pretty much sunk as soon as the PS3 came to the scene. The majority in japan tends to buy everything on the PlayStation. almost every known japanese game has sold less than it normally would on PlayStation 3 this gen(even though they all still sold the most on ps3 compared to other versions). Nintendo had the Japanese market on lock with the Wii but the games just didn't sell on it for some reason besides the Marios and what not(or atleast they would have sold more on ps3)

 

the survival of the japanese home console market pretty much depends on Sony for the most part. If Sony does well then the japanese market does well but if Sony doesn't do well then the japanese market wont do well

 

The market didn't "BOOM" like it was supposed to when PS3 arrived. The price of the ps3 kept everybody away from it. If the people of the japanese market don't buy the console then who is going to buy the games?

 

the 1st impression is a killer so of course when games came out on the expensive ass console the people didn't buy them. which then gave devs the impression that something was wrong. They stopped making games like they used to because of this. the devs who still made jrpgs all jumped to the handhelds just to BARELY SURVIVE because of Sony and their decision to bid theirselves out with the console price

 

Wii U sold like 400k 1st week in japan and i read that ps2 surprisingly sold A LOT more than that when it came out at it's $299 price point and it was also selling at a good pace throughout it's years. The PS3 launched at $599 and sold a little over 80k it's 1st week.

 

at this point, the home console part of the japanese market can boom again BUT it all depends on what Sony does this generation with the PS4.

 

it is simple really. all they have to do is price the PS4 at $399. the market will thrive again if Sony plays their cards right. The japanese devs wont be scared to make games for the PS4. They won't have to worry about their games not selling well because the PS4 will be a lot cheaper than what PS3 launched at so the REAL gamers and younger crowd can get their hands on a PS4 more easily FROM JUMP! They can also buy their games early on. devs will be able to take more risks

 

the absence of the Japanese market this gen was Sonys fault

 

it all depends on Sony



DigitalDevilSummoner said:
lots of jrpgs appeared on the 360 early this gen and it did not go well

MS never really gave them the spotlight and 360 fans never rewarded them with sales

it took the Japanese some years until recently that they started getting out of their shell once again this time on the PS3

...and Atlus is absent.

Actually those early 360 games sold pretty good for jrpgs. According to vgchartz Vesperia,The last remnant, Lost odyssey, infinite undiscovery and blue dragon all sold alright. Their also alll over half a million on here. Dont know if thats right or not but its there. Im willing to say those game ive just mentined are better thana lot of the ps3 exclusives like disgea, Atelier Roronoa, cross edge and hyper demension(EWW). Though there are some great ones as well. 

I have had a lot of fun with jrpgs this gen especially those earlier ones for the 360 I do think theres less available, but I wouldn't say theres a lack of great ones. No genre this gen or last just kept putting out top notch super good games in my opinion.