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Mr Khan said:
NightDragon83 said:
Soleron said:
The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.

You do realize that some of the drugs people have been killed over are prescription drugs, right?  Legalizing drugs isn't going to stop people from dying over them, especially when they need their fix and don't have the money to purchase or acquire them legally i.e. a doctor's prescription.

The solution then would just be to de-regulate the distribution of all drugs, but big pharma would *hate* it.

Actually something i could get behind, namely that you can't patent a distinct chemical compound.

Clinical trials need to stay in some form. If the US had public healthcare it would be cost effective to entirely self-fund trials. Perhaps in conjunction with some EU systems.



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All the racial violence in U.S summarized in 1 comic.

Is this too graphic?



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Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
NightDragon83 said:
Soleron said:
The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.

You do realize that some of the drugs people have been killed over are prescription drugs, right?  Legalizing drugs isn't going to stop people from dying over them, especially when they need their fix and don't have the money to purchase or acquire them legally i.e. a doctor's prescription.

The solution then would just be to de-regulate the distribution of all drugs, but big pharma would *hate* it.

Actually something i could get behind, namely that you can't patent a distinct chemical compound.

Clinical trials need to stay in some form. If the US had public healthcare it would be cost effective to entirely self-fund trials. Perhaps in conjunction with some EU systems.

Well, not to get rid of the FDA or its strict requirements, but to eliminate the entire "perscription" system and make everything over-the-counter



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Black on black crime is still the biggest problem in the South. That statistics for it are incredible. It accounts for over 90% of violent crime in my state.



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Otakumegane said:

All the racial violence in U.S summarized in 1 comic.

Is this too graphic?

I think it might be a little too graphic.

Not sure I get it, either.



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Mr Khan said:
NightDragon83 said:
Soleron said:
The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.

You do realize that some of the drugs people have been killed over are prescription drugs, right?  Legalizing drugs isn't going to stop people from dying over them, especially when they need their fix and don't have the money to purchase or acquire them legally i.e. a doctor's prescription.

The solution then would just be to de-regulate the distribution of all drugs, but big pharma would *hate* it.

Actually something i could get behind, namely that you can't patent a distinct chemical compound.

Think how much cheaper drugs would be, even if they still could patent distinct chemical compounds, but they were producing them for the mass market.

The issue with not allowing them to patent it is... who's going to make new drugs?

It's sort of like Textbooks.  The US allows the biggest prophet, and coincidentally most textbooks are made in the United States... even a LOT of europeon textbooks are adapted from US textbooks or even just are US textbooks with the words "International Edition" slapped on the front of it.

 

Without the US as the big money market we might see a big drop in pharmecutical research.



NintendoPie said:
Otakumegane said:

All the racial violence in U.S summarized in 1 comic.

Is this too graphic?

I think it might be a little too graphic.

Not sure I get it, either.


Basically the comic is showing how the crowd cares more about what the police officer is doing to the criminal by hurting his wrists, then the massive crimes said person has committed.

I'm assuming the point trying to be made is that the reason there is so much crime is because local communties tend to overlook the crimes of "Their own" and instead focus on others wrongdoings while ignoring what they've done.

 

Which to be fair is very common in the area I work at.  Though where I work at in Las Vegas there is no racial divide.    Black, Hispanic, White, everybody gets along perfectly fine, with "Battle lines" being drawn due to specific slights towards each other, and then people joining in, or just believing the side of the person they like more, assuming the other is completely to blame.  Hence there is no accountability or change in behavior.  When someone gets out of jail, it's the police's fault for arresting them, not that they stole someone or beat someone so bad they were put in a hospital, or the other guys fault for "starting" it by saying something stupid.

 

Also strangely enough it's rarely long lived.  I've seen a guy pull a knife on another guy's throat having to be convinced by someone else not to use it, and then seen those two people hang out and act like friends a week later.



Kasz216 said:


Basically the comic is showing how the crowd cares more about what the police officer is doing to the criminal by hurting his wrists, then the massive crimes said person has committed.

I'm assuming the point trying to be made is that the reason there is so much crime is because local communties tend to overlook the crimes of "Their own" and instead focus on others wrongdoings while ignoring what they've done.

 

Which to be fair is very common in the area I work at.  Though where I work at in Las Vegas there is no racial divide.    Black, Hispanic, White, everybody gets along perfectly fine, with "Battle lines" being drawn due to specific slights towards each other, and then people joining in, or just believing the side of the person they like more, assuming the other is completely to blame.  Hence there is no accountability or change in behavior.  When someone gets out of jail, it's the police's fault for arresting them, not that they stole someone or beat someone so bad they were put in a hospital.

 

Also strangely enough it's rarely long lived.  I've seen a guy pull a knife on another guy's throat having to be convinced by someone else not to use it, and then seen those two people hang out and act like friends a week later.

That does make sense, then. I've read very many comments on here (and countless other places) where people don't even try to focus on the big problem at hand. Which is somewhat scary. They just don't seem to care really...



Marks said:
Soleron said:
The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.


This. 

Legalizing drugs will dramatically reduce crime and bring in so much profit. I don't know who is paying the federal gov't to keep drugs illegal but they must have deep pockets. 


Absolutely. Much of the regulations on alcohol and cigarettes should be removed for similar reasons. Regulations on guns and prostitution need to be rolled back for similar reasons. The government creates these conditions. The government can go a long way to help solve many of these problems but elimating dozens of laws.



 

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Soleron said:
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I think that education has to really be taken care of in urban areas - the public education system in major cities is ensuring that minorities cannot get themselves out of welfare and systemic poverty. Additionally, I think welfare programs have to be removed or become very focused on goal-oriented, temporary assistance. If and when minorities can improve their lot, there will be a lot less strife - after all, the successful minorities (Asians, for example) simply do not have these problems.

Schools should be evenly funded (instead of varying by local taxes), and as a temporary measure the inner city schools should recieve more funding to create better facilities and attract the best teachers that can perhaps get more to go to college. Every student that is able to go to college from these areas needs to feel he or she can afford it - fully paid scholarships should not be limited to a certain number or require competitive application. The investment will be paid back as soon as these people don't end up in prison (very expensive) and get a job that contributes to the economy.

The inner city schools are the best funded in much of the country. Often times the rural schools are the least funded. I do agree that inner city schools are way over funded. Around $25,000 per year per student in DC. Students go to school for K through 12 which is 13 years, but many are held back a year so $25,000 per student times 14 is just too much money. In many rural areas the funding is only 1/3 that amount.



 

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