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Racism is a changing face in America. In the past it has been a minority (black/mexican/asian/etc) vs white. But things have been changing over the last decade or so, and as the hispanic population has increased (and hispanic gangs have exloded in membership) they have begun a race war against the blacks. Not just in prison, and over guns and drugs, but over territory, and to innocent people who have no gang affiliation. The southern states are the most affected. But what can be done about this and how can law enforcement start to make a dent?

 

This is the the article that prompted my post: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126,0,977110.story

What are people to do when apparently the law has no control over these areas? Its shameful that people in this day and age are fearful of where they can live, and even more shameful that the police can not seem to stop it. I dont live in LA, but I dont live to far from San Bernardino (getting worse every year) and as housing gets shut down in LA these gangs are moving to the suburbs and bringing their views and their crime with them.



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Raiacl Violence In the US

*racial* FTFY

EDIT: You were faster :D

 



Back where I grew up, Indians and Hispanics used to have gang wars against each other.

I don't know why Hispanics feel the need to be so aggressive to other minorities (I'm assuming this is the case, since I've never heard of the other minorities attacking each other).



The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.



thranx said:

Racism is a changing face in America. In the past it has been a minority (black/mexican/asian/etc) vs white. But things have been changing over the last decade or so, and as the hispanic population has increased (and hispanic gangs have exloded in membership) they have begun a race war against the blacks. Not just in prison, and over guns and drugs, but over territory, and to innocent people who have no gang affiliation. The southern states are the most affected. But what can be done about this and how can law enforcement start to make a dent?

 

This is the the article that prompted my post: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126,0,977110.story

What are people to do when apparently the law has no control over these areas? Its shameful that people in this day and age are fearful of where they can live, and even more shameful that the police can not seem to stop it. I dont live in LA, but I dont live to far from San Bernardino (getting worse every year) and as housing gets shut down in LA these gangs are moving to the suburbs and bringing their views and their crime with them.

i live in riverside... and yes it is getting worse and worse in inland empire..... esp. san bernardino county



 

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thranx said:

 Not just in prison, and over guns and drugs, but over territory, and to innocent people who have no gang affiliation. The southern states are the most affected. But what can be done about this and how can law enforcement start to make a dent?

 

What does that sound like? It sounds like wild animals to me.

Goodness, gangs are such ridiculous things. I don't even know why anyone would want to join one.



Looks like it's time for me to come out of retirement.



Soleron said:
The obvious solution is to not make drugs worth fighting over by legalising them.


I completely agree. With out an income source as easy and lucrative as drugs, they would be forced to work or steal. And theft is easier to stop when they are already broke and dont have access to huge aresenals finacned by drugs. And if they work, thats great!



wfz said:
Back where I grew up, Indians and Hispanics used to have gang wars against each other.

I don't know why Hispanics feel the need to be so aggressive to other minorities (I'm assuming this is the case, since I've never heard of the other minorities attacking each other).


With the current rate of US immigration I wonder how long before whites become part of that minority.

Guesstimates put hispanics at 30 to 40 percent in our lifetime ( if you are less than forty something).

 

 

 



Unfortunately, the vast majority of crimes are caused by minorities in the US. If you removed blacks and hispanics from crime statistics, the United States has a crime rate that is well inside the median of European standards (something like 1.1 murders per 100,000 instead of ~3.9).

So the solution is to look at why minorities cause so much more crime. Unemployment, education, and a lack of opportunities are powerful driving forces. Educated minorities with college educations (even just 1 year of education) see murder rates drop by 80-90%, and are very similar to whites in regards to crime. So I think there's a lot that has to be done for those growing up in the ghettos that graduate only a fraction of minorities. Unfortunately, its a cyclical mess, because such issues keep continuing.

Like Soleron said, drug legalization is an important step. I think that education has to really be taken care of in urban areas - the public education system in major cities is ensuring that minorities cannot get themselves out of welfare and systemic poverty. Additionally, I think welfare programs have to be removed or become very focused on goal-oriented, temporary assistance. If and when minorities can improve their lot, there will be a lot less strife - after all, the successful minorities (Asians, for example) simply do not have these problems.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.