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Nem said:
said:
Microsoft is even worse with 360:
  1. Gears of War - 4 (with Judgement upcoming)
  2. Halo - 4
  3. Forza - 4
  4. Project Gotham Racing - 3
  5. Fable - 3
  6. Dance Central - 3

 


Maybe someone else already pointed out, but yes Microsoft is the worse of the 3, as they limit the number of franchises they have. Also, im pretty sure there was an Xbox live Fable game in 2D. So you can rise that to 4 if you want.

I do agree though, Nintendo is highly criticised by something that the others seems to do worse. In the case Microsoft is clearly worse. Sony has a habit of creating new franchises every gen since most of them end up failing and they try something new, but i would say that they are the most of the safe side. It all depends on what they reveal for the PS4. If the uncharted series continues or gets axed like Jak series did and if the other series carry on. I guess they milk God of war already though. 2 per system.

i thought he already did that because fable 1 was for the original xbox so 3 fable games has to mean he included the pub game. i just wonder which third pgr game he is talking about because i know only 2 for 360 but would love to have a third one.

but if we start to count the fable pub game we should also start to count every game with mario as mario game, i don't think his list would look so good for nintendo and the milking argument then.

and as big halo fan i have to say please milk more but i would like to see some other genres in the halo universe..



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Nintendo-Europe said:

"Mario games (platformer): 7"

On Nintendo DS : Super Mario 64 DS (HISTORIC PORT!), New Super Mario Bros
On Wii : Super Mario Galaxy, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2

Which are the 2 missing main Mario games ?

Super mario allstars and super paper mario on wii.



badgenome said:
runqvist said:

I think I have played that game with the dog with the hat. Does anyone know what game that is from? :D

PaRappa the Rapper.


Greatest game ever.  Seriously, it just edge's out Um Jammer Lammy.  This brings up another good point, PSABR shows you just how badly Sony milks its IPs in one Gen and then dumps them.  There are plenty of PS1 and 2 characters, Sony owned, that didn't make it, and look at how few people know or care about the characters from older games.

I kind of wish Sony would "milk" some of their older IPs.



badgenome said:
runqvist said:

I think I have played that game with the dog with the hat. Does anyone know what game that is from? :D

PaRappa the Rapper.

Yes, that was it! Thanks. :)



Super mario allstars is a port of an SNES remake of the Super Mario Bros games on NES. As for Super Paper Mario, can it be really considerate as a platformer game ?



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brendude13 said:
Those stats are heavily skewed.

You can't just stick Mario in a cart and claim it to be a different franchise. Also, you're missing quite a few games from the Nintendo list, I'm not a huge Nintendo gamer and even I can see some obvious emissions like Mario Party and Paper Mario. Factor in handhelds and that list is going to look VERY different.

The number of games isn't even the problem either, most of the IPs you listed on the Wii are at least a decade old, whereas the ones in the Sony and Microsoft section are fresh IPs.


Mario Kart IS a differnet franchise, it's a completly different game.   It is, how ever, the same IP.  



Nintendo-Europe said:

Super mario allstars is a port of an SNES remake of the Super Mario Bros games on NES. As for Super Paper Mario, can it be really considerate as a platformer game ?

That is what it says at vgchartz. A platformer, I don't know anything about the game.



runqvist said:
Nintendo-Europe said:

Super mario allstars is a port of an SNES remake of the Super Mario Bros games on NES. As for Super Paper Mario, can it be really considerate as a platformer game ?

That is what it says at vgchartz. A platformer, I don't know anything about the game.

It's a RPG....maybe action RPG is a better term.



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Spazzy_D said:
brendude13 said:
Those stats are heavily skewed.

You can't just stick Mario in a cart and claim it to be a different franchise. Also, you're missing quite a few games from the Nintendo list, I'm not a huge Nintendo gamer and even I can see some obvious emissions like Mario Party and Paper Mario. Factor in handhelds and that list is going to look VERY different.

The number of games isn't even the problem either, most of the IPs you listed on the Wii are at least a decade old, whereas the ones in the Sony and Microsoft section are fresh IPs.


Mario Kart IS a differnet franchise, it's a completly different game.   It is, how ever, the same IP.  

That's true actually, my bad.



pokoko said:
KHlover said:
pokoko said:

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That's funny. You know what Pikmin was based off? :D

 

I have never been less surprised in my life.

I'd also like to throw out here that I'm not really talking about sequels.  Games that continue a story or an adventure set in the same world don't really bother me--at least, until there is a significant drop in quality and you get that "what next?" kind of feel.  I'll be fine with another God of War, Halo, or Mario Galaxy.  Series like Forza or Gran Turismo are also exempt, as long as they keep moving forward.  It's when the characters are torn away from their game worlds and pasted all over everything else for the sole purpose of branding, that's what bugs me.

With Nintendo, you get the feeling that they look at the calendar and say, "we need another Mario game".  I don't really like that.  It's kind of the same with Zelda, where you get the idea that they're constantly sorting through unrelated ideas for something they can transform into a Zelda title.  It seems really cynical to me.

That's an interesting take. I actually feel the opposite. I feel overexposed to direct sequels that drag a story along for four or five games. Whereas I'm fine with series like Zelda, Mario, Final Fantasy, etc., which recycle a formula but don't tell the same story arc each time. There are exceptions, of course -- Metroid and Halo come to mind -- but generally I think two or three games is enough to tell a story.