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I want them to work even more with third parties.

They still need to expand their own workforce though.



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noname2200 said:
Wander_ said:
noname2200 said:

Gotta spend money to make money! It's not like the extra manpower demanded for HD games should have come as a surprise to the company who warned that HD games took a lot of manpower...

Nintendo never really cared about 3rd party games they always gave them the finger.

I...wouldn't go that far. But assuming that were accurate, wouldn't growing internally be more in line with what you're saying?

Why would they want to grow when they are the biggest publisher in the world by revenue ? Plus if they partner with a 3rd party they will have to pay millions and they don't like that.



Wander_ said:
noname2200 said:
Wander_ said:
noname2200 said:

Gotta spend money to make money! It's not like the extra manpower demanded for HD games should have come as a surprise to the company who warned that HD games took a lot of manpower...

Nintendo never really cared about 3rd party games they always gave them the finger.

I...wouldn't go that far. But assuming that were accurate, wouldn't growing internally be more in line with what you're saying?

Why would they want to grow when they are the biggest publisher in the world by revenue ? Plus if they partner with a 3rd party they will have to pay millions and they don't like that.


Okay, you had me going there, well done.



I am fine with it as I trust Nintendo to make sure the games are great before release. They did delay Wii Fit U, Game & Wario, Pikmin 3, Lego City, and The Wonderful. 101 to make sure they are the best they can be.

I kinda hope Pikmin 3 gets delayed again to make it even better. If I do buy a Wii U, Pikmin 3 will be one of the main reasons and I hope it lives up to my admittedly very high expectations!



Wander_ said:
noname2200 said:
Wander_ said:
noname2200 said:

Gotta spend money to make money! It's not like the extra manpower demanded for HD games should have come as a surprise to the company who warned that HD games took a lot of manpower...

Nintendo never really cared about 3rd party games they always gave them the finger.

I...wouldn't go that far. But assuming that were accurate, wouldn't growing internally be more in line with what you're saying?

Why would they want to grow when they are the biggest publisher in the world by revenue ? Plus if they partner with a 3rd party they will have to pay millions and they don't like that.

Soo, ... basically you're saying you neither read the OP, nor did you watch the Nintendo direct? Sorry if I'm a bit confused but I'm ready to listen.



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happydolphin said:
Wander_ said:

Why would they want to grow when they are the biggest publisher in the world by revenue ? Plus if they partner with a 3rd party they will have to pay millions and they don't like that.

Soo, ... basically you're saying you neither read the OP, nor did you watch the Nintendo direct? Sorry if I'm a bit confused but I'm ready to listen.

I hate reading, i only read the topic. Why whats going on ?



Wander_ said:
happydolphin said:
Wander_ said:

Why would they want to grow when they are the biggest publisher in the world by revenue ? Plus if they partner with a 3rd party they will have to pay millions and they don't like that.

Soo, ... basically you're saying you neither read the OP, nor did you watch the Nintendo direct? Sorry if I'm a bit confused but I'm ready to listen.

I hate reading, i only read the topic. Why whats going on ?

You said they don't want to partner with 3rd parties, but OP is saying they are partnering with 3rd parties (given what was said at the Nintendo Direct), and OP was wondering if that was a good strategy for Nintendo. To reiterate, you said Nintendo didn't want to partner with 3rd parties, but the ND just said the contrary, and so did OP. And then OP tried to ask you if what you said made sense given OP, and you answered outside of the established facts.



happydolphin said:
Wander_ said:

I hate reading, i only read the topic. Why whats going on ?

You said they don't want to partner with 3rd parties, but OP is saying they are partnering with 3rd parties (given what was said at the Nintendo Direct), and OP was wondering if that was a good strategy for Nintendo. To reiterate, you said Nintendo didn't want to partner with 3rd parties, but the ND just said the contrary, and so did OP. And then OP tried to ask you if what you said made sense given OP, and you answered outside of the established facts.

But still judging by Nintendo's past gens they don't like partnering with 3rd parties.



RolStoppable said:
noname2200 said:

True, but that doesn't seem to be what they're attempting, at least not at the moment. Creating new studios takes time, after all, and the ideal point to get started would have been when they were preparing to launch their new systems. Judging from their financial reports, they HAVE acquired new offices, but those mostly seem to be so they can consolidate their current workforce, not expand it.

Yeah, they clearly missed the boat on that one, but that doesn't mean they can't take that path anymore. It would only start to pay off in the latter half of this generation, but that's still good enough. Have some B-teams still working on the current gen systems while the A-teams are working on next gen games. That should help Nintendo to retain more of their fanbase during the transitional periods, in case third parties have abandoned a system like usual.


From what I've heard they are doing just that in several of their development Studios. NSMB2 was developed by the B-Team for 2D marios while NSMBU was made by the A-Team (they even used that nominclature from what I read) and Zelda has been doing the same in recent years with the main studio working on the main Zelda franchise games (TP, SS, the next one for Wii U) while their B-Team works on things like Redoing Ocarina of Time for the 3DS and now Wind Waker HD remake for Wii U. But I agree with you that this is something they should continue doing and expand on.

I am kinda happy that Intelligent Systems is getting some help with Fire Emblem Wii U (with the SMT crossover with Atlus) because while I LOVE Fire Emblem I also want to see an Advance Wars 3DS (or two) for instance.

I think partnering with certain 3rd Parties (read willing third parties) is a great way for Nintendo to also expand the number of games that can be released on their systems. They make tons and try to get third parties to put their games on their systems but the main complaints usually are 1 "there isn't a market for non-nintendo games on nintendo systems" and/or 2 "there isn't much chance competing against nintendo on nintendo systems" I see this as Nintendo say, "okay we will let you use our IPs to kill those two complaints, now why can't you make money on our systems? (hint: the answer is either a) they can or b) they don't want to.

I'd be interested in other collaborations, we know of Smash Bros and Fire Emblem, could we see Metroid, F-Zero, Donkey Kong, or any number of other IPs given new twists by third parties? Could be interesting, I don't think they would all be 100% Awesome (looking at Metroid Other M, which was not as bad as people portray but was no Prime) but some could be amazing depending on the IP and the Developer that gets to use them.



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SSJGohan3972 said:


 Zelda has been doing the same in recent years with the main studio working on the main Zelda franchise games (TP, SS, the next one for Wii U) while their B-Team works on things like Redoing Ocarina of Time for the 3DS and now Wind Waker HD remake for Wii U. 

Grezzo, an independent third-party, did the Ocarina remake. No idea who's doing Wind Waker, but if it's anyone inside Nintendo then resources are clearly not being utilized wisely.

 

You make a good point about letting third-parties use Nintendo's IPs. The only rebuttal I have is that they tried to do just that in the Gamecube era, with mixed results. Sega has put out several Nintendo games, including Nintendo exclusives. But Namco hasn't been the best of buds.