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Do you think Homosexuality can be cured?

WHAT?? You can't cure it. 61 31.77%
 
You Can't, Homosexuality is a Choice 9 4.69%
 
No, it's just a matter o... 39 20.31%
 
Yes, Through Psychological/Social Therapy 19 9.90%
 
Yes, Through Drugs, It's... 8 4.17%
 
Yes, though Genetic Modifications 9 4.69%
 
Yes, though Drugs & T... 6 3.13%
 
I'm not sure 8 4.17%
 
See Results 33 17.19%
 
Total:192

Make-shift quote because apparently the quote code goes wonky on my device:
Ghutto: "Do you think Heterosexuality can be "cured"?"


No, because it's the norm and homosexuality is abnormal! That's why virtually all animals in the animal kingdom have been recorded to engage in "homosexual activity"!

And homosexuality is a choice! Why wouldn't they want to subject themselves to social stigma and a lack of rights?

Wait, homosexuality is a mental condition and "gay reparative therapy" cures it! That's why every study on the subject shows that it doesn't and the "therapy" is psychologically traumatic!

Screw logic and science, I have a book! (Or, more accurately, a bunch of like-minded folks in a logicless vacuum who pick-and-choose passages and misconstrute the meaning of said book, and then go on paranoia-fueled tirades against people who may or may not commit this one sin specifically).



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Michael-5 said:

Should sex defining traits be treated? Depends, isn't Down Syndrome having a 3rd Chromosome? That should be treated always. I dunno what YY give you, an infertile female? If so, yes that should be treated. As for other traits, I'm not aware of any positive mutations in this aspect, so IMO yes they should be treated.

As for the surgery itself, I think it's gross. I'd be more into converting people genders if they actually could to it accuratly. It doesn't matter if she is lacking ovaries, but the idea that some girls out there have inverted penis's for vagina's....that's not a substitution, and while that individual might be a happier person, what about the people she sleeps with? Do they not have a right to know if they are having sex with a Vagina or an Inverted Penis?

Should people who have participated in sex change opperations, at the level of quality they have now, be treated in the same way people with HIV are treated? Legally (In Canada) HIV carriers have to inform their sexual partners about their condition before they can have sex. Thus if someone contracts HIV and wasn't aware of you carrying, you can be in serious trouble. Sex Change doesn't have any contractable desease, but IMO it's equally as unwelcoming. Should we force these people to tell their partners about their conditions?

Can you cure acceptance to homosexuality? If not, is it wrong to offer homosexuals who wish to be heterosexuals under pressure a way out?

What about homosexuals with or without family pressures, who just want to be heterosexual? What about a Mama's Boy who just wants to make mom proud and give her grandchildren, and have a family?

A "cure" may be administered incorrectly, in some cases, but is it worth not having at all?

What about a cure which turns homosexuals into bisexuals, favoring the opposite gender. What's your thoughts on that? This way a homo gets everything, does he not (Family, maybe children, but still stays gay).

I'd say altering chromosomes would be near impossible, merely because of the fact that it's the base building blocks. Turning an X into a Y would introduce more defects than it would fix, provided the patient lived that long...But for the sake of the theory, if you COULD, I'd say that changing a defective gene in order to allow people to reproduce might be a bad idea, since said bad gene could most likely remain in the offspring.

I don't know? Are men entitled to know before sex if a women's breasts are fake? Are women entitled to know if a man isn't adequately equipped before sex? HIV is one thing, because it can have life-altering consequences, whereas those who cannot tell a constructed vagina from a real one would never know any better. It would be a case of ignorance is bliss.

I think you have as much chance of developing a drug to administer to people to accept homosexuality as you do with the bisexual drug that you mentioned. I'll explain why when I get to it at the end.

A homosexual who wants to do stuff to make their mother proud would be classed as working from outside influence. I once heard a story about someone who wanted to be closer to her mother (they were rather apart) and started considering smoking just to share something in common. Altering your life for the will and happiness of someone else is a bad idea, no matter how you look at it. It would have to be a decision that they'd have to make for themselves.

Given the amount of "what ifs" here, like the one mentioned above, I'm starting to think that maybe the world isn't ready for such a "cure", based on intentions of others, directly or indirectly. A gay couple who wants a child would generally want it with the one that they love, and I'm pretty sure that they've gone a long way with turning one reproductive necessity (an ovum) into the opposite gendered equivalent (a sperm), in order for homosexual couples to have children, much more progress to it's goal than a homosexuality "cure".

For the bisexual drug thing, I'll explain a theory I have on the matter. In a way, everyone is bisexual. It's not black and white, merely tones of grey. What sets bisexuality apart from the others is the "thresholds" that differ between people. The threshold is like a balance, a tipping point for how much one enjoys, for instance, heterosexuality over homosexuality, or vice versa, that one is distinctly better than the other in noticable magnitudes, thus the fields of homosexuality and heterosexuality. Bisexuals tend to have a much wider threshold than the other two, since they encompass a lot more shades into their mindset of attractiveness. A lot of bisexuals still have a preference to one side or the other; that's just different shades of grey in the scale between full hetero and full homo.

Now, for a bisexual drug to happen, it could realign your "bisexuality meter", but the tolerances would still remain. This would hardly work at all. The only way I'd see it is to increase the threshold by some kind of "acceptance drug" (as explained above), which would keep their orientation as strong hetero/homo, but still have a developed tolerance for the opposite side of the spectrum. Is this feasible? Absolutely! Will it ever be a reality? Nope. The reason is politics. Anti-gay advocates would herald this as a first step to eliminating homosexuality......until they find that it would have the reverse effect on full hetero people (making them open to homosexual encounters), to which they'd burn the research centre to the ground.



Absolutely. Homosexuality is a sickness/disorder/sexual malfunction, and it should be treated as such in biology. It serves no sexual nor procreational purpose to human species except for spreading AIDS and other numerous STDs... So yeah, we should definitely look for a cure to fix. I am also pretty sure lots of gay people would much rather be heterosexual than gay, if they had a choice.



Player1x3 said:
"Absolutely. Homosexuality is a sickness/disorder/sexual malfunction,"
No.

"and it should be treated as such in biology."
No. Wanna know why it isn't treated as such? Because homosexuality has been proven not to be any of those things. Logic!

"It serves no sexual nor procreational purpose to human species"
Neither does casual sex, by that logic.

"except for spreading AIDS and other numerous STDs..."
Straight people have STDs too, y'know. But people like having sex, including gay people. Some of those people don't use condoms. What can ya do?

"So yeah, we should definitely look for a cure to fix."
Scientists have looked for far longer than they should have. Guess what's been found? That sexuality is a function of your brain that you're born with which determines who you're romantically/sexually attracted to and cannot possibly be changed through any modern means.

"I am also pretty sure lots of gay people would much rather be heterosexual than gay, if they had a choice."
Sure, but just to avoid discrimination. I'd think most people would, for functional purposes, prefer to be bisexual, assuming one could actually change their sexuality. Doubles the pool of potential mates.



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TakeMeToTheHospital said:
What a disgusting topic. Of course it can't be cured you sick bastard!


Maybe not yet, but it definitely should be. Maybe sometime in near future hopefully...



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Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:
What a disgusting topic. Of course it can't be cured you sick bastard!

Maybe not yet, but it definitely should be. Maybe sometime in near future hopefully...

Sounds like you really wish to be attracted to women.



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Kangi said:

Player1x3 said:
"Absolutely. Homosexuality is a sickness/disorder/sexual malfunction,"
No.

Great argument.

"and it should be treated as such in biology."
No. Wanna know why it isn't treated as such? Because homosexuality has been proven not to be any of those things. Logic!

I think Michael covered this up multiple times already

"It serves no sexual nor procreational purpose to human species"
Neither does casual sex, by that logic.

Uh...ok? Heterosexual sex still has the potential and the ability to reproduce , homosexual doesn't either way. And that was my point 

"except for spreading AIDS and other numerous STDs..."
Straight people have STDs too, y'know. But people like having sex, including gay people. Some of those people don't use condoms. What can ya do?

Except gay people (gay men, more specifically) are million times more likely to have it in comparison to straight couples. Gay sex is generally more unsafe.

"So yeah, we should definitely look for a cure to fix."
Scientists have looked for far longer than they should have. Guess what's been found? That sexuality is a function of your brain that you're born with which determines who you're romantically/sexually attracted to and cannot possibly be changed through any modern means.

I don't think they should give up, especially since this issue effects alot of people 

"I am also pretty sure lots of gay people would much rather be heterosexual than gay, if they had a choice."
Sure, but just to avoid discrimination. I'd think most people would, for functional purposes, prefer to be bisexual, assuming one could actually change their sexuality. Doubles the pool of potential mates.

I don't know any straight dudes who think ''hmm, i'd like to be attracted to men as well''





RolStoppable said:
Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:
What a disgusting topic. Of course it can't be cured you sick bastard!

Maybe not yet, but it definitely should be. Maybe sometime in near future hopefully...

Sounds like you really wish to be attracted to women.


Oh noez, the classic witty argument >_<

Yup, you got me. I really wish i wasnt a closest homosexual 



Well I don't know if I should be offended or just reply as it is.

If it is genetic and can be changed you straight would become gay?
Apparently in your eyes (or most of you) we are all promiscuos and we have sex every day and God knows what else which is more fun than most straight guys lives (APPARENTLY)

The assumption is very serious here, if it is genetic would you change your son/daughter eye colour? Hair Colour? AND so on until we arrive to skin colour.... Would you? RACIST! NAZI! all comes from ideas of normality vs wrong and changing the "abnormal" through genetic...
IT MAKE ME SICK!!!!

Are we assuming that being gay is wrong? Are we assuming that being gay is something to be ashamed off? Are we assuming that being gay it is not NORMAL?

All this moral condition comes from Religions, the same religions that ask us to not judge and respect the other as ourself.

A bit conflicting there don't you think?

anyway... genetic changes will happen - and we will all end up in a big mess (Resident Evil reality here I come)- Such an horrible world but fortunately by the time this will happen I will be dead - and YES I do not want to have kids and put them in this world where btw (are we genetically altereting people that will be horrible parents?)

Am I happy to be different? YES!



Switch!!!

"Gay sex (eew)". You just summed up everything I could infer from that misinformed response: you think gay sex is icky. Lol. Is straight anal sex also icky? Because it's the same exact thing. And just as likely to get you an STD.

Edit away as you like. You've already shown all I need to see.



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