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I see nothing wrong with 'kiddy' games as you call it. I find it refreshing that there is a company that will make games that I can play with my children, yet also find fun as an adult. The best moments in life are those that you can spend having fun with your children. Nothing else comes even close.

 



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Then why do you care Kwaad?  Go play your PS3.

The core Nintendo games are still there, their lineup is just being augmented by other genres now as well.  All the epic games that were profitable before, are still profitable, and will still be made at the same rate as before.  Once the market adjusts all these low-budget games will get flooded so that none will profit on average any more than the epic games anyway.  With new gamers and more money in the industry, the new games are being made in addition to the old ones, not instead of them.



Ok, Kwaad. You it was successful. More before it says which to me of these games is simple?

1º) Sadness

2º) Disaster: Day of Crises

3º) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

4º) No More Heroes

5º) Project H.A.M.M.E.R.

6º) Red Steel and Black Steel (Possible name of the sequence)

7º) Samurai Slash

8º) Devil Kings 2

9º) Midnight

10º) Thorn

11º) And Obscure II, Manhunt II, Brothers in Arms: Double Teams, Brothers in Arms: D-Day, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, etc…

 If to want more, has a list some games that will be launched for Wii.



DKII said:

Then why do you care Kwaad? Go play your PS3.

The core Nintendo games are still there, their lineup is just being augmented by other genres now as well. All the epic games that were profitable before, are still profitable, and will still be made at the same rate as before. Once the market adjusts all these low-budget games will get flooded so that none will profit on average any more than the epic games anyway. With new gamers and more money in the industry, the new games are being made in addition to the old ones, not instead of them.


 I am actually doing that right now. so MEH. Are you playing with your Wii?

It matters to me, becuase it will move the way games are made if the Wii is victor, and the only games that well well are 'Play my Wii 27'.

Why? becuase they wont make big budget games, they wont make great games. It will be.

My Wii and the dog.

My Wii and the family.

My Wii and their little friends.

My Wii and sports.

My First Wii.

 

VOMIT. When gaming comes to that, I will stop playing games on consoles. Wich it seems from what everyone says here. Will happen in the next 6 months. Becuase every sony game sucks. (That right, God of War sucks... Just like GT4... Sony games just suck)

So it seems that the only games that I am intrested in now are SPORE... wait, it's made by EA, so it could suck. That leaves me With Crysis... wich I need to buy a new 600$ graphics card to play, and that is it. The only game worth buying since Any game on the PS3 sucks... Basically 1 game every 4-5 years worth buying.

Whatever. Go crawl back up my ass, because it seems you like it there for some reason. 



PSN ID: Kwaad


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Kwaad said:

OMG KWAAD IS EVIL, Kwaad is stupid.

Look guys. I clearly state, this is my opinion, I clearly state, this is what I think is gonna happen. I am NOT saying this is what you want. Look, Hello Kitty online is coming out soon. That is a game for you. Go buy it.

I do not like simple games. I like complex games that work. Nintendo is anti-complex. THey have proven it agian and agian, and are moving away from complex faster and faster every day. I DO NOT LIKE THAT. 


No, Kwaad is not evil or stupid. He just thinks that the industry should move in HIS direction, ignoring the fact that Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft don't give a sh*t about him or what he wants.

He doesn't understand that epic or complex games are made and will be forever made as long as there are people buying them and not because they're better or much rewarding than the rest of the games.

Kwaad is not evil or stupid. He's just naive and biased.



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The Gaming industry is a business. IF they see that casual gaming is greater than Extreme Hardcore, they will move that way. I would not want that, but businesses go where they money is.

Edit:I am all for the Wii, but I would be upset if I didnt have the choice to go another way. However, anything could happen this Gen.



r2007 said:
Kwaad said:

OMG KWAAD IS EVIL, Kwaad is stupid.

Look guys. I clearly state, this is my opinion, I clearly state, this is what I think is gonna happen. I am NOT saying this is what you want. Look, Hello Kitty online is coming out soon. That is a game for you. Go buy it.

I do not like simple games. I like complex games that work. Nintendo is anti-complex. THey have proven it agian and agian, and are moving away from complex faster and faster every day. I DO NOT LIKE THAT.


No, Kwaad is not evil or stupid. He just thinks that the industry should move in HIS direction, ignoring the fact that Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft don't give a sh*t about him or what he wants.

He doesn't understand that epic or complex games are made and will be forever made as long as there are people buying them and not because they're better or much rewarding than the rest of the games.

Kwaad is not evil or stupid. He's just naive and biased.


 If you read what is highlighted... Your right. :D

Sony is releasing massive scale games. LAIR is on a larger scale than most of nintendo games combined. Heavenly Sword, God of War. These are all the way sony is going, and all the way I want games to go. Microsoft is going the same way. Fable2, is supposed to be my dream game... but I doubt it will work. But it's goal is what I want. (but I doubt it will work right)

If the PS3/360 sales dont have a good portion of the market, massive games on those platforms will not exist, and as long as they dont exist on those platforms, they might as well not exist, becuase I've been playing the progressivly growing PS2/GC/x-box generation for a long time, and that generation came to a climax, and then the 360 came out. The PS2 ran stagnant for a whole year because they ran out of power. The Wii does not have that much more power. So actually if the Wii dominates, Massive scale games will run stagant untill a faster console comes into power. So no they wont vanish. But they wont improve either. And a game that does not improve, is not a reason for me to buy it. Why? Because if it's the same-ol-same-ol. Cant I buy the older one for my PS2 for 20$, instead of buying the new one for 50$? Or cant I buy oblivion for my PS3/360/PC, wich is better, than buying... Elderscrolls 5, exclusive to the Wii and suck?

My point is, if the Wii wins, Massive scale games are put on hold untill the 8th gen consoles. 



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DonWii said:
The Gaming industry is a business. IF they see that casual gaming is greater than Extreme Hardcore, they will move that way. I would not want that, but businesses go where they money is.

 You could not say it better. That is EXACTLY what I am saying.



PSN ID: Kwaad


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I am all for the Wii, but I would be upset if I didnt have the choice to go another way. However, anything could happen this Gen.



Hollywood is the biggest industry in the world making movies.

I love movies, i'm part of film society and I don't like 90% of the ones coming from there. Crap after crap of sequels and special effects garbage with no content or complexity of characters (oh, and romantic comedies). And yet they are the top box-office ones. The success of a movie depends largely on money, actors, marketing and special effects. Very little on story, interpretation, photography.

Does this mean Hollywood is killing movies? Of course not. Does this mean I hate Hollywood? WHY? The fact that an industry can produce and attract millions of viewers every year is enough to give the OTHER movies a chance to be seen, to be noticed, to become successful by attributes other than great million dollar productions.

There are great movies from low-cost productions IN and OUT of Hollywood and in other countries as well, because as much as you can dominate the market with "non-movies", there is always room for every other genre... from horror to b-movie productions; from low-cost to porn; from personal visions to documentarys. The wider the industry gets, the more chances the kind of niche cinema you like gets to evolve and reach others.

The same happens in music or videogames. It's the nature of entertainment.