It seems like a trend around these forums to comment in a manner to make people "pay" for whatever happened elsewhere , involving other people. 

In this thread, no one bashed the gamepad, or said it was a poor idea. You're being frustrated over nothing here.

As for the rest of your post, I see nothing but apologetics.

wow..so much hate and spite..it really is laughable that's for sure. Ok let's break this one down shall we

1st Para

Good visuals don't equal to good games? No shit. I don't think anyone ..ever would say such a stupid thing nor should they. This is why we saw absolute shit games on both HD consoles AND on the wii. We will see such games in all future consoles too. Great visuals DO however can make a gaming experience even better! The issue with wiiu is not even about great power...it's about comparable power to next gen MSony consoles. This is a recipe for a wii like 3rd party disaster waiting to happen. It's definitely true we have to wait to see if the next MSony consoles show a significant leap over current gen and the wiiu....but all signs do point to that. About nintendo having more good games than MSony combines...yeah no. It's opinion and personal preferance based yes but given how absolutely tragic the wii situation was with third party support you are seriously deluding yourself the overall library of wii is better than PS360 ones. If you stuck with just wii last gen then you missed out big time on some of the best experiences of the whole gen

2nd para

Sure shows how much respect you have for other companies and what they do the way you ignore dreamcast and attack sony. It's downright shameful. You live in a lala land where everyone is out to get ninty. I dare you to tell me people and the media in general were not excited about the wiiu pad. People might have been skeptic but they didn't hate it nor call it 'crap'...unless you are setting yourself a youtube comment section level of standard here

3rd para

How can the blame be misplaced for

1. Having a slightly more powerful system than "7" year old consoles

2. Not scheduling good software support post launch

3. Implimenting horrible design choices for online such as tied accounts system

exactly? MSony would still go for options that they think would work best for them with or without Nintendo. I mean talk about being paranoid. You are basically diverting blame and hoping companies and products fail out of sheer paranoia. I bet nintendo did everyyyyyyything first right? Laughable...most definitely. So what if sony doesn't go for a pad design and does something different? what if they actually do bring biometric built in controllers? would you stop acting so paranoid? Would you stop spewing hate for no reason whatsoever? I doubt it. It's a shame too, you reflect bad on nintendo fans in general. Good news is not everyone is like you.

If you want to hope and pray for something, make yourself uselful and pray for something that benefit all of us gamers. Hope for three consoles with strengths in different areas that will bring us great gaming experiences across the board. Hoping a console launch to have trouble like this is absolutely disgusting behavior

grow up is all I can say

Sorry, don't misundertand my agressive stance I'm not wishing grief on anyone, especially fellow gamers. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of some gamers in here. I intend to always own every current console on the market, but will at the same time defend Nintendo (and Sony and MS) against any hypocritical thiking - as in the present case.

Anyways, the fact remains that if peoople thought that a touch screen on the Gamepad made the Wii U that much more expensive, then it is only reasonly to think that a PS4 that is more powerful, with a touchscreen controller, is going to be out of reach financially of the average gamer. This rumor should be upsetting a lot of gamers, but people in here seem to be embracing the idea lol, hypocrites I say

So, I wish this rumor is true, cause I love a touch screen controller as I found out with the Gamepad, and will no doubt buy a PS4 no matter the price or if it has a touch screen or not. But what about other gamers, can they afford the likelihood of such an expensive PS and will that do to the PS brand? I bet because it's Sony, many gamers aren't concerned about this.

I agree with your post, but there's something I don't "understand"...Sega did the screen controller first, but if this rumor is true, why is Sony doing it now? Maybe a coincidence? I really don't know. My guess is that this controller will be a peripheral, to compete with the GamePad and the SmartGlass on the 360.

So here's my idea for this controller and I'm basing this on thinking this is similar to dreamcast controller screen in design than a tablet design of the wiiu (I hope not because I want three distinctive consoles if possible) , the screen might be there manily for the biometric readings. As in it will showcase the readings of your tensions levels etc on the controller itself and not on the main screen. It could also be something to do with functionalities related to psn and such too but I think it would be mainly for the bio metrics

but keep in mind this is just one of the two rumors about the controller..the other one talks about a track pad instead of a touch screen, similar to the vita one

The dreamcast had a screen on its controller first. Is this gonna be the new defense for insecure Sony drones? If it is, it's a rather pathetic excuse. People who say that apparently never played a dreamcast because first, the screen was technically on the memory card and didn't serve much function until the memory card was removed from the controller so you could raise your little animal things from sonic adventure or manage your memory with its little dpad and second, the screen had the same resolution as a Casio calculator and had no touch function so it's a bit of a stretch to think the wiiu is a copy of the dreamcast. Why are people so offended by Nintendo? Truth be told, people are either ignorant or in denial if they don't believe Nintendo made console gaming what it is today for better or for worse. Remember, Nintendo brought the video game market back from the dead after Atari drove it into the ground

Hate and spite for hypocritical thinking, sure I’m guilty. But don’t get mad because I’m point out the hypocrisy of many games in here, don’t hate me hate your own biased thinking.

First Paragraph:

For example, are you’re considering the Wii a disaster because it didn’t have as much 3^rd party support as the PS360? Well, firstly, in case you didn’t notice, the Wii had a lot of 3^rd party support. Simply because it didn’t have the games you liked from various 3^rd parties, doesn’t mean it was a failure, or anything close to it. Just goes to prove my point, that simply because Nintendo doesn’t behave like Sony or MS, people think they are somehow a failure and so it’s ok to hate. It is this line of thinking which is shameful, as you seem to forget the 3^rd party support that Wii U is already getting plus its great 1^st party games, plus Nintendo is always very secretive about what it is doing. The bottom line is that Nintendo, with all its failings, remains a valuable part of the video game industry, regardless of its lack of 3^rd party support or whatever other reason gamers raise for hating on them.

By the way do you own a Wii U or are you like many gamers waiting for 3^rd party support? And I never skipped a mainstream console since NES, just so you know, and don’t plan to, whether or not it has a touch screen controller.

Second paragraph:

Not sure what your point is about the Dreamcast, I loved the console, and whether Nintendo copied the Dreamcast or not, I could really care less. Anyways, I will tell you that MANY people weren’t excited about the Wii U and the Gamepad, and they still aren’t. They might not have said specifically that it would be crap (just a matter of speaking by the way), but many people certainly didn’t think that it would be a benefit to gaming, and still don’t. Or are you saying that everyone in the industry have been singing the praises of Wii U and its Gamepad?

Third paragraph:

1.      Many people are happy with the power of current consoles.

2.      Nintendo has been actively trying to get 3rd party support. What, you think they should hold a gun to ever 3^rd party’s head?

3.      So this is a reason to hate? There are many other good things about Nintendo’s online offering, but you’re too busy focusing on what others offer than what Nintendo offers.

In the end, you’re the one in denial and as I said, don’t hate me for pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of some gamers that have nothing good to say about the Gamepad, that it’s too big, it’s an Ipad with buttons, I don’t want to look down while gaming, etc etc etc, while at the same time willing to embrace a PS iteration of the same. If Sony ‘innovates’, then GREAT better for all gamers. The reality is however, that people are often less than enthusiastic about Nintendo and its offerings, and often think that the industry is going in one direction while Nintendo is going in another – so they should hate Nintendo. Well that’s BS, and it’s clear that you think this way, that simply because Nintendo doesn’t offer you the same graphical power or online capabilities, or whatever as MS or Sony, then your hate is justified, lol, alright then.

I think Sony would or could be doing it because it offers a lot of potential advancement to gaming. And if Sony does do it and does it better than Sega or Nintendo then great for gamers. Even if MS sticks in a free tablet with every 720 so that we are sure to use SmartGlass, then great for gamers. Whatever Sony has planned could only be good for gamers IMO, but I don't know what will happen with Vita connectivity if they go down this road. Will that mean that Vita is even less attractive since the PS4 is offering touch screen gaming out the box?

If Sony does this then the Vita connectivity with the PS3/PS4 is pretty much dead. That's one of the reasons why I think this will be a peripheral instead of the standard controller. It does the same thing as the Vita but without the need to buy a $250 (probably less by then) handheld device. 

Agreed. And what a lot of gamers fail to realise is that if it wasn't for Nintendo and its purported underpowered, old tech, kiddy games, and gimmicks, etc etc, all the BS that people love to raise against Nintendo, we would currently be playing consoles with no 'innovation' beyond MORE POWER and a bigger price tag, essentially forcing most gamers financially out of the industry and resulting in the potential second collapse of the industry.