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Argh_College said:
360 is a monster, what MS acomplished here is something outstanding. No one saw it coming.

Xbox 3 will be massive, not only in the U.S.



Yep you said it. now to sell something more in japan. Wow japan hates 360. Thats another thread though.



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spaceguy said:
Argh_College said:
360 is a monster, what MS acomplished here is something outstanding. No one saw it coming.

Xbox 3 will be massive, not only in the U.S.



Yep you said it. now to sell something more in japan. Wow japan hates 360. Thats another thread though.

No one cares about Japan... Home Consoles are dead there, next gen will be even worse.

Only 3DS sells.



Argh_College said:
spaceguy said:
Argh_College said:
360 is a monster, what MS acomplished here is something outstanding. No one saw it coming.

Xbox 3 will be massive, not only in the U.S.



Yep you said it. now to sell something more in japan. Wow japan hates 360. Thats another thread though.

No one cares about Japan... Home Consoles are dead there, next gen will be even worse.

Completely false.



                                                                                                                                            

Skeeuk said:


the sole rason is because it launched at an affordable price with 2 variations, then quickly gained software support with a great games lineup. 360 WOULD NOT BE AS POPULAR in NA had it launched at a ridiculously high price like some other console


I don't get why ps3 fans say the same things everyday. Everyone knows that the price really hurt the PS3 in the beginning, and everyone knows the 360 would never have done so well if it launched at that price. 



    

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The article kind of makes me laugh since core gamers have been what Microsoft has dropped recently. PS3 is the one catering more to the core gamer. Citing games like CoD then saying "hardcore" tickles me pink.

Honestly the reasons I see for its success are all superficial ones. I HOPE I don't offend anybody as these are just my opinion and experiences.

In the US, everything is a popularity contest. If it's advertised as being the best, most people will believe it to be true. Microsoft is much better at advertising than the other two. After just about every multiplat game commercial at the end you'll see "Xbox 360". I cringed when I saw a Final Fantasy XIII commercial with the 360 logo after it lol. I think Microsoft is really good and pretending they are the absolute best when it comes to everything, and most "gamers" don't know any better.

Which leads me to my second point. A lot of people who call themselves "gamers" in the US really aren't. They don't love the hobby or media and they don't have a passion for it. All they care about is doing things with their friends to stay socially relevant. Again not trying to offend anybody but seriously i've met a TON of people who are 360 fans. Not one of them knew anything about gaming at all. All they played was CoD and Halo. Most of them didn't even know the difference between a multiplat and an exclusive game. Yet those same people who know nothing are so quick to attack either Nintendo or Sony. Usually with poor or outdated arguements that can be objectively disproved in a few seconds. Then they resort to "Well whatever it still sucks"

I've seen the hive mind mentality with far too many 360 fans. Even to the point where when I engage them in a friendly debate (not being a jerk or anything) it becomes immediately apparent that they are still using the old arguments of "Sony has go gaemz" from 2007, which they probably heard from someone else to be honest. They never know about new and upcoming games even if it's for their system as well. And don't get me started on how most of them don't even know what Uncharted is lol. Yeah Sony is terrible at advertising but come on..how have you not at least HEARD of it before?

I've shown a ton of people trailers for PS3 exclusives and they all get excited. "Whoa that looks amazing! When's that coming out?" "Any pre order bonuses?" Then I tell them it's a PS3 exclusive and they respond with "oh.." and change the subject right away. Also i'm totally in awe when I see someone pretend that they aren't interested in a game just because it's not on the 360. "Demons Souls? Psh, who would want to play that? Way too hard" then a few years later "Omg Dark Souls is the best thing ever!!"

I'm not dissing REAL 360 fans, like the ones on this site (you have to be a real gamer to check and post on a videogame sales website lol) but the majority of 360 fans I have met are as casual as they come. Honestly Microsoft has done some great things like innovating the social aspect of playing online and actually I'm pretty fond of Gears myself.

Sony started pretty poorly and the media sure didn't let anyone miss that fact, but they have done an outstanding job turning things around. I like Nintendo games (Pokemon omg) I like some Microsoft games (Gears) but I strongly feel that Sony is the one who isn't riding the casual train atm. I know not to associate the people I have met to be representative of the whole, but honestly I'm finding it extremely hard to see Microsofts success as nothing more than fooling those who don't know any better. Justing Bieber is popular too, I guess it's because he appeals to hardcore music lovers right?

That's my opinion and I realize many might or might not agree with it, I don't mean to offend anyone. But like the thread title asks, I to have been curious as to why the 360 is so popular here. Then I look around and find my answer.



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UnitSmiley said:
The article kind of makes me laugh since core gamers have been what Microsoft has dropped recently. PS3 is the one catering more to the core gamer. Citing games like CoD then saying "hardcore" tickles me pink.

Honestly the reasons I see for its success are all superficial ones. I HOPE I don't offend anybody as these are just my opinion and experiences.

In the US, everything is a popularity contest. If it's advertised as being the best, most people will believe it to be true. Microsoft is much better at advertising than the other two. After just about every multiplat game commercial at the end you'll see "Xbox 360". I cringed when I saw a Final Fantasy XIII commercial with the 360 logo after it lol. I think Microsoft is really good and pretending they are the absolute best when it comes to everything, and most "gamers" don't know any better.

Which leads me to my second point. A lot of people who call themselves "gamers" in the US really aren't. They don't love the hobby or media and they don't have a passion for it. All they care about is doing things with their friends to stay socially relevant. Again not trying to offend anybody but seriously i've met a TON of people who are 360 fans. Not one of them knew anything about gaming at all. All they played was CoD and Halo. Most of them didn't even know the difference between a multiplat and an exclusive game. Yet those same people who know nothing are so quick to attack either Nintendo or Sony. Usually with poor or outdated arguements that can be objectively disproved in a few seconds. Then they resort to "Well whatever it still sucks"

I've seen the hive mind mentality with far too many 360 fans. Even to the point where when I engage them in a friendly debate (not being a jerk or anything) it becomes immediately apparent that they are still using the old arguments of "Sony has go gaemz" from 2007, which they probably heard from someone else to be honest. They never know about new and upcoming games even if it's for their system as well. And don't get me started on how most of them don't even know what Uncharted is lol. Yeah Sony is terrible at advertising but come on..how have you not at least HEARD of it before?

I've shown a ton of people trailers for PS3 exclusives and they all get excited. "Whoa that looks amazing! When's that coming out?" "Any pre order bonuses?" Then I tell them it's a PS3 exclusive and they respond with "oh.." and change the subject right away. Also i'm totally in awe when I see someone pretend that they aren't interested in a game just because it's not on the 360. "Demons Souls? Psh, who would want to play that? Way too hard" then a few years later "Omg Dark Souls is the best thing ever!!"

I'm not dissing REAL 360 fans, like the ones on this site (you have to be a real gamer to check and post on a videogame sales website lol) but the majority of 360 fans I have met are as casual as they come. Honestly Microsoft has done some great things like innovating the social aspect of playing online and actually I'm pretty fond of Gears myself.

Sony started pretty poorly and the media sure didn't let anyone miss that fact, but they have done an outstanding job turning things around. I like Nintendo games (Pokemon omg) I like some Microsoft games (Gears) but I strongly feel that Sony is the one who isn't riding the casual train atm. I know not to associate the people I have met to be representative of the whole, but honestly I'm finding it extremely hard to see Microsofts success as nothing more than fooling those who don't know any better. Justing Bieber is popular too, I guess it's because he appeals to hardcore music lovers right?

That's my opinion and I realize many might or might not agree with it, I don't mean to offend anyone. But like the thread title asks, I to have been curious as to why the 360 is so popular here. Then I look around and find my answer.

You raise good points, but if anything, you also point how Sony lost their way in the States due to serious mismanagement of the PS3 pre-2009.



                                                                                                                                            

Michael-5 said:
Somini said:
Michael-5 said:

For the same reason why the Xbox 360 is so unpopular in Japan.


And the prize goes to contestant number 5 lol. This is what i have been saying as well. This doesn't mean a product or console has to be American made to sell in the US. Just that the 360 is one such product that has profited big from this.

Yea, but In Japan, you need a domestic product to sell well.

Well usually, don't iPads and iPhones sell well in Japan? Or is it South Korea and China exclusively that they sell well in?

In USA being domestic is a big help, you only need a half decent product to compete and viola. I don't knpw if Sony can ever reclaim USA anytime soon, but you never know, no one could have guessed Wii could have done so well in USA.


South Korea is still all about Samsung.



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CGI-Quality said:
UnitSmiley said:
The article kind of makes me laugh since core gamers have been what Microsoft has dropped recently. PS3 is the one catering more to the core gamer. Citing games like CoD then saying "hardcore" tickles me pink.

Honestly the reasons I see for its success are all superficial ones. I HOPE I don't offend anybody as these are just my opinion and experiences.

In the US, everything is a popularity contest. If it's advertised as being the best, most people will believe it to be true. Microsoft is much better at advertising than the other two. After just about every multiplat game commercial at the end you'll see "Xbox 360". I cringed when I saw a Final Fantasy XIII commercial with the 360 logo after it lol. I think Microsoft is really good and pretending they are the absolute best when it comes to everything, and most "gamers" don't know any better.

Which leads me to my second point. A lot of people who call themselves "gamers" in the US really aren't. They don't love the hobby or media and they don't have a passion for it. All they care about is doing things with their friends to stay socially relevant. Again not trying to offend anybody but seriously i've met a TON of people who are 360 fans. Not one of them knew anything about gaming at all. All they played was CoD and Halo. Most of them didn't even know the difference between a multiplat and an exclusive game. Yet those same people who know nothing are so quick to attack either Nintendo or Sony. Usually with poor or outdated arguements that can be objectively disproved in a few seconds. Then they resort to "Well whatever it still sucks"

I've seen the hive mind mentality with far too many 360 fans. Even to the point where when I engage them in a friendly debate (not being a jerk or anything) it becomes immediately apparent that they are still using the old arguments of "Sony has go gaemz" from 2007, which they probably heard from someone else to be honest. They never know about new and upcoming games even if it's for their system as well. And don't get me started on how most of them don't even know what Uncharted is lol. Yeah Sony is terrible at advertising but come on..how have you not at least HEARD of it before?

I've shown a ton of people trailers for PS3 exclusives and they all get excited. "Whoa that looks amazing! When's that coming out?" "Any pre order bonuses?" Then I tell them it's a PS3 exclusive and they respond with "oh.." and change the subject right away. Also i'm totally in awe when I see someone pretend that they aren't interested in a game just because it's not on the 360. "Demons Souls? Psh, who would want to play that? Way too hard" then a few years later "Omg Dark Souls is the best thing ever!!"

I'm not dissing REAL 360 fans, like the ones on this site (you have to be a real gamer to check and post on a videogame sales website lol) but the majority of 360 fans I have met are as casual as they come. Honestly Microsoft has done some great things like innovating the social aspect of playing online and actually I'm pretty fond of Gears myself.

Sony started pretty poorly and the media sure didn't let anyone miss that fact, but they have done an outstanding job turning things around. I like Nintendo games (Pokemon omg) I like some Microsoft games (Gears) but I strongly feel that Sony is the one who isn't riding the casual train atm. I know not to associate the people I have met to be representative of the whole, but honestly I'm finding it extremely hard to see Microsofts success as nothing more than fooling those who don't know any better. Justing Bieber is popular too, I guess it's because he appeals to hardcore music lovers right?

That's my opinion and I realize many might or might not agree with it, I don't mean to offend anyone. But like the thread title asks, I to have been curious as to why the 360 is so popular here. Then I look around and find my answer.

You raise good points, but if anything, you also point how Sony lost their way in the States due to serious mismanagement of the PS3 pre-2009.

Thanks and yeah I definitely agree that Sony made some crucial mistakes at the beginning of this gen. Not blaming Microsoft for Sonys bad management that's for sure haha. It's probably wishful thinking but I want to see Sony step up the advertising this upcomming gen.



Otakumegane said:
Michael-5 said:
Somini said:
Michael-5 said:

For the same reason why the Xbox 360 is so unpopular in Japan.


And the prize goes to contestant number 5 lol. This is what i have been saying as well. This doesn't mean a product or console has to be American made to sell in the US. Just that the 360 is one such product that has profited big from this.

Yea, but In Japan, you need a domestic product to sell well.

Well usually, don't iPads and iPhones sell well in Japan? Or is it South Korea and China exclusively that they sell well in?

In USA being domestic is a big help, you only need a half decent product to compete and viola. I don't knpw if Sony can ever reclaim USA anytime soon, but you never know, no one could have guessed Wii could have done so well in USA.


South Korea is still all about Samsung.

Yea, but doesn't Apple have a decent share in the phone market their? I don't know, I just read that Apple is the best non-Korean branded product there, and I believe it's #2 in phones, and not by a ridiculous margin.



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UnitSmiley said:
CGI-Quality said:

You raise good points, but if anything, you also point how Sony lost their way in the States due to serious mismanagement of the PS3 pre-2009.

Thanks and yeah I definitely agree that Sony made some crucial mistakes at the beginning of this gen. Not blaming Microsoft for Sonys bad management that's for sure haha. It's probably wishful thinking but I want to see Sony step up the advertising this upcomming gen.

Not wishful thinking at all. In the PS2 era, nobody advertised like Sony, there were PlayStation billboards, posters, and marketing everywhere. They just need to remember that getting the word out keeps interest alive and can mean the difference between 90-100 million consoles sold and 160 million.