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the2real4mafol said:
Unsurprisingly Football games are big there, but there charts are all over the place, New games seem to sell with older editions of the game for some reason

I think that's not the case... the gamers have to buy the old edition until the release of the new one... so from January to September there is just the 2012 edition to buy... I expect the PES 2013 to enter in the chart this year too.



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ethomaz said:
the2real4mafol said:
Unsurprisingly Football games are big there, but there charts are all over the place, New games seem to sell with older editions of the game for some reason

I think that's not the case... the gamers have to buy the old edition until the release of the new one... so from January to September there is just the 2012 edition to buy... I expect the PES 2013 to enter in the chart this year too.

I saw it with Assassin's Creed II at no. 10 and Assassin's Creed at no. 9, while both dance centrals appear for xbox's chart and just dance 3 and 4 appear for wii's chart. It's just odd to see 2 PES games and 2 FIFA games in the charts as well. Maybe Brazilians buy there games far later than us, generally



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ethomaz said:

pr3st00 said:

Wow.. that kind of surprises me, I always thought Playstation brand was a monster here in Brazil. That's good to know...

It is... the 65% market share is just for the late 2012 months after August... the PS3 sold almost twice the 360 lifetime... before the console manufacture here the 360 had less than 10% of the market share.

The good news is PS3 is to be manufactured here early this year... so the market share will change in PS3 favor again.

The lifetime sales in Brazil seems like...

PS3: ~1600k
360: ~1000k
Wii: ~500k

PS. I overstimate the 360 sales a little.


And PS3 as well. Wii have a good base. Piracy my friend.



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the2real4mafol said:
Unsurprisingly Football games are big there, but there charts are all over the place, New games seem to sell with older editions of the game for some reason


Talking about Fifa and PES, the 2013 version cost aroud US$ 90. The 2012 version is only US$ 30 or 40 now, so it's a good deal since these games didn't change a lot, just roster updates and minor improvements.

 

EricFabian said:

And PS3 as well. Wii have a good base. Piracy my friend.

Piracy helps more X360. Wii is pretty much dead here. I went today to a store in my town (Lojas Americanas, for the readers of other countries, it's one of the biggest in physical stores and online sales here). There was big stands for 360 and PS3, Wii only had one smaller one that was hidden behind a column.



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NiKKoM said:
How is online gaming in brazil? Too expensive for most? Too slow speed? Do people pay for xbox live?

There are at least 23m paying for Live. Some must be in Brazil :D



NiKKoM said:
How is online gaming in brazil? Too expensive for most? Too slow speed? Do people pay for xbox live?

Well, most people with original games play online. These consoles and games are expensive, so the kind of public that buy it can afford broadband without problems. Actually, most people have broadband nowadays, the problems is how broad it is. In capitals (Rio, São Paulo, etc), it's easier and cheaper to get 5Mbps to 20Mbps. In other cities, it's a little different. I live in a city near Rio and here the maximum we can get are 10 Mbps, but it is not available at all locations in my town. I live near downtown and have 5 Mbps, but some friends of mine can have only 1 Mbps at home. It's not much common, but the broadband service sometimes is slower some days and that is simply irritating.

I play online a lot and don't have problems (except the ones caused by the low wifi signal of my router in some parts of the house, but that's a hardware problem and I will probably get a better router because of that). My friends usually play online too and I talk frequently with at least 20 people with PS3s or 360s.

Of the PS3 guys, only one doesn't play online because he just likes to play JRPGs and his console is modded to run pirate games (that is not common for PS3s, since the mods block online and you still have to download the games and put on external HDs). On the XBox side, most pay for Live. But there is around 4 people that just have Silver subscriptions. One of them is a casual player, he only has 3 or 4 games and don't play a lot. The others have modded consoles and play pirate games. Some of the Gold Live members have modded consoles too, since they allow to play online even with pirate copies.

At least the piracy is way lower now. On PS2 era, nobody, I mean really nobody, had original games. Now it's pretty common and most people have original games because of better pricing, payment conditions and more advertising. 



NiKKoM said:
How is online gaming in brazil? Too expensive for most? Too slow speed? Do people pay for xbox live?

For big cities the online is fine (5 to 20MB connections) but there is a lot of issues in small cities (the internet is expensive too in small cities). The speed is good and most of time here (São Paulo) I have better online play with PS3 than a lot of Europe contries... even for download patchs is way faster here than the avg. in VGC.

There is a lot os Plus users here too (of couser US or EU with internation credit card... I have a AMEX just for buy stufs on PSN) ... at least 7 in 10 PS3 friends have plus.

The biggest issue here is the price of the games... the console is expensive but you can pay with credit card installments (10x or 12x without interest)... but the games are too expensive to buy more than one per month... so I think mostly people here buys a game each 2 or 3 months.



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Like Gears of War 2, Fable 2 which are at $5.00 even Gears 3 is under $15.00. Send some Black Ops (1), etc.

Halo: Reach, Modern Warfare 3 and Battlefield 3 are all under $30.00.

But I don't know if you would personally get stuck with a bunch of import taxes! :-/



 

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