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I recommend the preorder (I've got mine) for this one, it comes with DLC and a nice steelbook.



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i can't wait to cut shit up.



First of all, is that Raidens same voice actor? His voice and acting are awful. So cheesy and bad!

Second, what's up with his complete character change? He was never a blood thirst character. He's completely different according to this trailer.

Also, the enemies weren't supposed to be human. Were those cops human or machine? Thought I saw him grab some "cores" out of a few (indicating they weren't human), but wasn't sure.



pitzy272 said:
First of all, is that Raidens same voice actor? His voice and acting are awful. So cheesy and bad!

Second, what's up with his complete character change? He was never a blood thirst character. He's completely different according to this trailer.

Also, the enemies weren't supposed to be human. Were those cops human or machine? Thought I saw him grab some "cores" out of a few (indicating they weren't human), but wasn't sure.


Te biggest problem in my opinion is the blood color, these cyborgs should have white blood, as it is said in MGS4.



brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Played the demo, loved it, pre-ordered it immediately, can't wait for best Metal Gear game since MGS.

MGS3 fans spit on you!


As a long time fan of Metal Gear before it became Metal Gear Solid, who still enjoys the games, I think MGS is the best of the MGS games and Twin Snakes is the better version. MGS 3 is ok, but I don't consider it better than MGS 2. I like it, but MGS is my favorite.



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kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Played the demo, loved it, pre-ordered it immediately, can't wait for best Metal Gear game since MGS.

MGS3 fans spit on you!


As a long time fan of Metal Gear before it became Metal Gear Solid, who still enjoys the games, I think MGS is the best of the MGS games and Twin Snakes is the better version. MGS 3 is ok, but I don't consider it better than MGS 2. I like it, but MGS is my favorite.

My favourite is MGS too, and I am looking forwards to Rising. I just don't think it'll be able to hold a candle to the main series MGS games.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Khuutra said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Khuutra said:


Considering that it's been stated by representatives of Kojima Studios, yes, I believe it. Because Kojima Studios stories are also very stupid and tongue-in-cheek.

Your belief is not required.

So basically you mean to tell me that a well respected high production game focused on story like MGS is stupid? (1) That story is not cannon and I am glad it is not. (2) I would say then that this is twice that Kojima studios has failed Hideo Kojima. First they failed him on gameplay and now story.  (3)


1. Yes, absolutely, Metal Gear Solid is almost aggressively stupid. Fun, endearing, and it has moments of being well-written, but still stupid. That doesn't mean it's bad. Vanquish is stupid but fantastic, for instance.

2. It is absolutely canon.

3. Kojima himself picked Platinum Games for this project because they were a perfect fit for what he wanted and he's reportedly very happy with how the gameplay is turning out.


1. Vanquish like all of Platinum Games titles has great arcade style gameplay, and its only appropriate that Sega published them because they always had great arcade style games in their first party lot. Platinum Games achillies heel will is and always has been their stories and boring characters. They are not interesting and the niche that even pay attention to them (myself added) are the only ones who get anything out of their games. Look at Anarchy Reigns, its the most disjointed Powerstone wannabe brawler that I've ever seen and it does not look balanced at all. The characters are not well thought out and do not compliment one another in the slightest. Hell, most of the characters are under the radar characters which will causes this game to sell dismally low. I am not afraid to speak the truth about one of my favorite developers, I accept their flaws.

Metal Gear Solid is the major franchise that got people to focus on the more serious side of games with political warfare undertones and risky infiltration situations, sure there were some quips (as I said before). Never before had a console game had that level of production value of story and Kojima set a standard not just for the east to catch up with but also the west.

2. I get that now, and thats what hurts the credibility of it even more. Kojima didnt write the script or even co write it, so this worries me. I dont like anything that is serious being put in the hands of Platinum Games. I've never taken that company seriously outside of their wacky arcade style gameplay mechanics. I was perfectly fine when they said it was a spin-off, but looking at that wacky shit it looks nothing like nothing in the MG universe. 

3. I know Kojima picked Platinum Games. As I said before, he was forced to because he let his team do this project and stepped back into a supervisor position rather than director, while he supervised other Konami titles like Castlevania to make sure to production level and quality was high. His team failed him without his director status and he publically humiliated them by making a video package that clearly separated him from his team. MGS5 looks like its on its way, and I will play Reveangence but I wont take it seriously at all. Can't wait for some post cold war action in MGS5 the story looks tense. I need to play MGS: Peacewalker, its been on my HDD on my PS3 for a while.

Are you telling me you take a game with cartoon punctuation above character's heads seriously? A series with a villain that "meows" like a kitty cat to call for backup. A series with long melodramatic rambo-a-like reflections on the meaning of war. A franchise with character names like Solidus Snake, The Sarrow, and a group called the Beauty and the Beast Corps. Do you really consider Metal Gear games to be above B-Grade? Take any game in the series and make it into a movie and it would get panned by critics as incomprehensible schlock. I like schlock, I collect schlock, and MGS is schlock. The difference between MGS and Escape from New York is that fans of the latter know it's a B-Grade and love it for it. Some fans of MGS seem to think that it's the highest form of art there is. As a fan of Metal Gear games I enjoy it for what it is. An over the top, sometimes lol wtf cartoon, sci-fi action thriller with ridicules characters and b-movie settings.

I think Kojima does it on purpose. There's no way a game serious could be as cheesy as Metal Gear by accident. The fact that he took the main character's name from Escape from New York says that Kojima enjoys b-movies so it makes sense that his movie marathon length games would pay homage to that schlock he loves. That same schlock that keeps me coming back to MGS for the same reason I sat in a theater this past weekend and enjoyed eating popcorn and drinking soda while watching Gangster Squad.

So, stop kidding yourself. MGS is not high art. MGR isn't cheesier than MGS, it's just more upfront about it. Enjoy it for what it is, deal with what it means that you like it, and get comfortable with the fact that you, like I do, seem to like games with extra cheese.



brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Played the demo, loved it, pre-ordered it immediately, can't wait for best Metal Gear game since MGS.

MGS3 fans spit on you!


As a long time fan of Metal Gear before it became Metal Gear Solid, who still enjoys the games, I think MGS is the best of the MGS games and Twin Snakes is the better version. MGS 3 is ok, but I don't consider it better than MGS 2. I like it, but MGS is my favorite.

My favourite is MGS too, and I am looking forwards to Rising. I just don't think it'll be able to hold a candle to the main series MGS games.

I don't think it needs to be or even wants to. It's a spin off. That's why they dropped "Solid" from the title. It shouldn't be judged against MGS games, it is only related to them. MGR is to MGS like Clone Wars is to Star Wars. It's part of the family, but It's its own thing.



kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
brendude13 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Played the demo, loved it, pre-ordered it immediately, can't wait for best Metal Gear game since MGS.

MGS3 fans spit on you!


As a long time fan of Metal Gear before it became Metal Gear Solid, who still enjoys the games, I think MGS is the best of the MGS games and Twin Snakes is the better version. MGS 3 is ok, but I don't consider it better than MGS 2. I like it, but MGS is my favorite.

My favourite is MGS too, and I am looking forwards to Rising. I just don't think it'll be able to hold a candle to the main series MGS games.

I don't think it needs to be or even wants to. It's a spin off. That's why they dropped "Solid" from the title. It shouldn't be judged against MGS games, it is only related to them. MGR is to MGS like Clone Wars is to Star Wars. It's part of the family, but It's its own thing.


Same universe, same timeline (a couple years after MGS4) same judgement. They said it wasnt cannon before and now it is.  If thats the case its not a spin off. 



This does not look good, may buy it when it's £5 a month or 2 after release.