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Max King of the Wild on 13 January 2013
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
theprof00 said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

While I do not believe the shooting was fake, there does seem to be quite a few inconsistencies. Especially the gentleman who lost his daughter and the next day was smiling and joking before "going into character". The facebook page where they announced the girls death and opened a donation page, then hours later had an update where they claimed the school was on lock down and they had not heard what happened to their daughter was truly a head scratcher.  I am only around 12 minutes in but I would highly suggest that before people comment, they actually watch the video first (or at least more than 5 minutes).

There is such a thing as people trying to be strong. You come off as someone who knows nothing about human psychology.

I'm sorry do you have children??? I happen to have 3 children and let me tell you, anyone who just lost their child in any matter WOULD NOT have the ability to sit there and be smiling and laughing the day after. There is being strong and then their is pure bullshit like that gentleman was displaying. You obviously have very poor observation skills.  Give your head a shake!


If you really believe what you are saying then I know why you can believe the OPs video so easily



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Nirvana_Nut85 on 13 January 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
theprof00 said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

While I do not believe the shooting was fake, there does seem to be quite a few inconsistencies. Especially the gentleman who lost his daughter and the next day was smiling and joking before "going into character". The facebook page where they announced the girls death and opened a donation page, then hours later had an update where they claimed the school was on lock down and they had not heard what happened to their daughter was truly a head scratcher.  I am only around 12 minutes in but I would highly suggest that before people comment, they actually watch the video first (or at least more than 5 minutes).

There is such a thing as people trying to be strong. You come off as someone who knows nothing about human psychology.

I'm sorry do you have children??? I happen to have 3 children and let me tell you, anyone who just lost their child in any matter WOULD NOT have the ability to sit there and be smiling and laughing the day after. There is being strong and then their is pure bullshit like that gentleman was displaying. You obviously have very poor observation skills.  Give your head a shake!


If you really believe what you are saying then I know why you can believe the OPs video so easily

I do, and I would bet that the majority of people on this site who are parents would agree. There would be absolutely no way in hell they would even be able to crack a smile let alone a laugh the day after.



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Marks on 13 January 2013

I believe 9/11 was an inside job, so I really don't have any trouble believing this was staged as well.

1. The AR-15 was never used, but the coroner claims it was the main weapon. This could easily be the US wanting to justify more weapon bans.

2. No bodies, parents not allowed to see their children?

3. Facebook pages/websites before the massacre?

4. Emergency crews blocked off?

5. 27 killed with some of them being shot 3-7 times...only 1 injured?? Wow he must be the most accurate person in the world.


People need to start questioning things, if you just blindly trust the government like sheep then it won't be long before America is Nazi Germany. The first step towards government control is always disarming its citizens...and this "massacre" is great justification to ban the AR-15 and other semi-automatic weapons...oh and the AR-15 is not an assault rifle by the way, it's semi-automatic...the AR in AR-15 stands for Armalite, not assault rifle.



Marks on 13 January 2013
iFlow said:
Two things.
1) Too soon.
2) I watched the first six minutes and none of it makes sense. The entire part about another gunman could be just some guy who had an adrenaline rush from being near the school and hearing shots fired. Everyone acts differently when faced with a situation so sickening. More than likely, he was innocent. As for the 4 handguns and the assault rifle. I live in Kentucky, and my local news channel said that 4 handguns were used and an automatic rifle was in the trunk on the day after it happened.

People knew he was going to use the assault rifle if needed to, and we don't want someone to have the chance to do so again. I don't like infowars or Alex Jones. Both twist articles and news reports like crescents.


Too soon? So when will it be okay to call out the government on, at the very least, these inconsistencies? 



theprof00 on 13 January 2013

you are not everyone, period, and you cannot make generalizations based on anecdotal evidence. People have very different personalities. Can i ask, have you ever been diagnosed with aspergers?



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adriane23 on 13 January 2013
ps3-sales! said:
I think the facebook pages are the weirdest anomalies. The video even shows users on those certain pages asking why they were created before the the actual shooting....

But in the end, it doesn't matter. All this talk of fake and conspiracy doesn't change the fact that we, as American civilians, don't have access to the 100% factual information. The government will hide stuff from us, and until it DIRECTLY affects me, I really don't care that much.

Great find OP, but you are only stressing and worrying yourself.

Actually, I'm playing Dishonored at the moment, so I'm already starting to put this in the back of my head. I'm not a very emotional person, so I tend to let things go rather quickly.

It's more interesting for me to see how people react to their preconseived notions of things. So far, I see:

Some people taking this video as gospel.

Some completely dismissing it.

Some coming up with shallow explanations, usually beginnig their sentences with "I'm sure", "Obviously", or some attack on the author.

And a select, intelligent few, getting facts from the video, but taking everything with a grain of salt.



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Porcupine_I on 13 January 2013

i just have one question:

Did anyone actually see these pages go up before the shooting, or is everyone just going by the date it shows on the infallible Internet?



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Max King of the Wild on 13 January 2013
adriane23 said:
ps3-sales! said:
I think the facebook pages are the weirdest anomalies. The video even shows users on those certain pages asking why they were created before the the actual shooting....

But in the end, it doesn't matter. All this talk of fake and conspiracy doesn't change the fact that we, as American civilians, don't have access to the 100% factual information. The government will hide stuff from us, and until it DIRECTLY affects me, I really don't care that much.

Great find OP, but you are only stressing and worrying yourself.

Actually, I'm playing Dishonored at the moment, so I'm already starting to put this in the back of my head. I'm not a very emotional person, so I tend to let things go rather quickly.

It's more interesting for me to see how people react to their preconseived notions of things. So far, I see:

Some people taking this video as gospel.

Some completely dismissing it.

Some coming up with shallow explanations, usually beginnig their sentences with "I'm sure", "Obviously", or some attack on the author.

And a select, intelligent few, getting facts from the video, but taking everything with a grain of salt.

It's a shame that I know of your death since June 17th 2009.... https://www.facebook.com/senior.junior.796 Better watch your back at work because the government is about to shoot it up.

It would actually help the accusers in the video to know the features of the site they are using to show as a conspiracy video.



J_Allard on 13 January 2013

Stupid video made by stupid people for gun toting maniacs worried that Obama gonna take our guns.

After any kind of big event like the shooting, you're always going to have witnesses saying all kinds of things, and all kinds of misinformation floating around.

The guy "getting into character" could have been nothing more than how the guy handles being nervous.

The Google dates have already been explained as a simple glitch by Google.

Videos like that make me wish we'd just nuke the Internet.



Max King of the Wild on 13 January 2013
J_Allard said:
Stupid video made by stupid people for gun toting maniacs worried that Obama gonna take our guns.

After any kind of big event like the shooting, you're always going to have witnesses saying all kinds of things, and all kinds of misinformation floating around.

The guy "getting into character" could have been nothing more than how the guy handles being nervous.

The Google dates have already been explained as a simple glitch by Google.

Videos like that make me wish we'd just nuke the Internet.



He doesn't look to be laughing to me like people are claiming. Looks like a nervous grin that i've seen from people a lot of times (giving presentations in front of a class room for example). there is nothing fishy about that video or the pictures after it. Nothing fishy about the donation sites. Nothing fishy about the crime scene... only thing I will say needs to be addressed are the initial reports of the guns used. Huge discrepency in them.