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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - All nintendo stock up 5% today. How did this happen with the NPD wiiU numbers yesterday???

More money = happy shareholders

Gaming experience or more power or more hardcore market = shareholders scratching their heads

The Nintendo press release was aimed at shareholders and explained first and foremost these numbers mean more revenue, at which point they went out and invested more. Pretty simple really.



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I own about 8 stocks in JP, seems like every company has been battling with either Yen strength or deflation. That country is in a lot of sh!t when it comes enthusiasm in general. Yen, Deflation, Earthquake. This new (well second coming of Abe) PM's single mindedness and resolve on tanking Yen is that country's last hope.

There is no way they can outsize China's economy and if they continued to sit on a strong Yen, Korea will overtake them in every industry. With a country that has a lot of built in fear, lack of Vita (aging and lowest birth rate on record), it's hard to see why anyone would rally behind Nintendo, itself an aging company. Just look at the damn age of the executives. When you add Senior to Managing, or Senior to Chief, that just means you should have retired when you first became eligible 20 years ago.

The rise is just no more than sellers having concuded their position clearing. Without an overwhelming reason to stay in, Nintendo will lose institutional interest. And with their dropping market cap, and the market perception of a dwindling video game market, Nintendo's inclusion in Nikkei average doesn't seem as a sure thing as just when the Japan Exchange Group was first announced.

While 3DS finally has gotten that banner year in software lineup in Japan, it makes Wii U the pink elephant in the room. Where are the games?



The all mighty 3DS for the rescue.



Higher revenue for Wii U would be expected.....its more expensive. How is this a surprise to stockholders? The real question is how much profit has Nintendo made.



Stock is almost completely and utterly bullshit. When you finally learn this, crap like this won't be so confusing.



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They swallowed the "revenue" Koolaid spin not realising that every Wii U sold is at a loss at this point. It's what happens when you get 3rd party info about a company and not the formal legal reporting. Something can be spun to sound positive in a way that an actual profit / loss financial report can't be spun.

It must also be said that 3DS performed very well in the NPD, so stock may be up more on that than on Wii U. But neither system is a significant profit maker on hardware, relying very much on SW and peripherals for Nintendo to profit. I guess the quarterly and annual reports are the ones to keep an eye out for. It will be an important annual report for Nintendo this one being Wii U's launch period and 3DS settling into the mid-cycle sales patterns rather than launch sales.



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There are a few tidbits of data that could have helped.

Present success like 3DS's booming sales in Japan, and a strong December in the US will have helped. Wii U has consistently been treated as a product that will not find a market by many analysts, so the reasonable sales will have helped there.

I think a couple of factors that may have helped were some of Iwata's recent comments in Japan: 500,000 digital sales of Animal Crossing at full price, and comments about Nintendo being open to pursuing the free-to-play business model with a new IP, are good signs for the long-term expansion of Nintendo's business. Furthermore, the weakening yen is good news for every export led Japanese business.



Handheld sales in the US are the lowest that they've been since something like 2001. 3DS was actually down from last year in North America.

You can see the decline here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46315295&postcount=2020

I think stockholders will realize things aren't so great when Nintendo has to release cold hard numbers for their fiscal year end and they see both the 3DS and Wii U miss their sales targets.

However the stock could be buoyed if the weakening yen allows Nintendo to make a small profit for the year.



not surprising, Pokemon X and Y is major seller for Nintendo and Animal Crossing is still the top 10 best selling game in Japan even after 2 months. Wii-U may looks disappointing, but it haven't even been released for a year, sales may increase in the subsequent months. Want the stocks to skyrocket? announce a new "3D" mario game like Mario Galaxy (not the overdone 2.5D mario titles we've been receiving lately) and a new Zelda with updated graphics for the Wii-U with a separate title for the 3DS.




nuckles87 said:
Higher revenue for Wii U would be expected.....its more expensive. How is this a surprise to stockholders? The real question is how much profit has Nintendo made.

Yes if they're losing money on each Wii U sold in NA...



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