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2013-01-08-212025

Or is it a deliberate piece of strategy?

The Vita comes in for some stick from a lot of quarters, and when we feel it is undeserved then we will say so, such as the games situation, but when something isn’t right, or is flawed then we will also give an opinion on that, as is only fair.

This article will discuss the ludicrous pricing on the PlayStation store, although it could also be about the ridiculous prices of the memory cards. There is no way I can actually justify the fact that a 32GB memory card costs £80 RRP in the UK and by default it is $100 in the US, so I won’t even try.

The sky high prices of just four memory sizes are anything but fair. Memory cards are compulsory for the Vita, and it is low that despite using flash memory cartridges for the game media, many games actually don’t save your progress onto it, it needs a memory card. But the bigger purpose of the memory is for when you download your games from the store and here comes the purpose of this piece.

Without even taking into account the preposterous £1 nearly equals $1 equals euro ratio that UK/EU gamers have had to endure for some time, nor that the default price of retail Vita games is ludicrous to begin with. Where we have been lucky enough to get Vita versions of console equivalents, they are priced identically, which is certainly not going to help sell units. Some of the publishers have been looking into cross buy, but they aren’t going to adopt this long term, as I cannot see how it is either financially viable or perceived as detrimental to the Vita. And the default price point should clearly be lower, by at least 10 of your currency for a handheld platform. But that’s just my opinion.

But moving on, in the UK last year we had the near collapse of the major retailer of video games, and you would not bet against another collapse in the future, and the games selections in Supermarkets really leave a lot to be desired. With us seemingly moving ever more into a digital gaming scene you would think that we would be starting to get a realistic pricing set up with digital. But the fact of the matter is, we do not.

Not content with already hitting us with the price of the cards, a look towards the EU PlayStation Store shows some of the crazy prices on there. It isn’t something exclusive to the Vita by any means – games on demand on the Xbox 360 are equally ill judged – but an example is Black Ops Declassified, which costs £45. FIFA Football, the first football game EA released last year is also £45. FIFA 13 is cheaper, and obviously newer. These are just a couple of examples but a look through the list versus a look at Amazon. You will probably laugh.

Digital distribution doesn’t have to be transported. It doesn’t have the retailer mark up. It doesn’t have the plastic cartridge nor the plastic case. And they already have your money from the required memory medium. So why can’t the prices be better? If you are trying to drive the online interactive aspect of your new handheld, citing the comparison with home gaming, then surely the pricing should be more appealing?

Perhaps I am missing the point, but I would wager that more people would pay for the bigger memory cards if they knew that in the long run it would be worth it through the savings they could make by buying directly from the store. With PlayStation Plus extending to the Vita, we are now seeing some fantastic savings on many titles in addition to the instant game collection. But if everything on the store which had a retail counterpart also had a 2-5 currency saving compared to retail by default I am sure more people would take it up as their prefered option. Epsecially when you cannot get said game in the shops, because the stocked selection is so poor.

I can understand that perhaps Sony don’t want to undercut retail “partners”, but these retailers are dieing out. Sony don’t ultimately owe them anything, it is the customers which support the brand, and the vast majority are learning and adapting, and going to the cheapest place to buy the platform and the games. Any obligation Sony have with these bricks and mortar shops is massively misplaced in my view as you will see when I make my next article. These business are certainly not doing you any favours here in the UK, Sony.

And anyway, these shops cannot compete with the range of pricing that is being delivered by the online stores. And these online stores consistantly are able to beat the PlayStation Store sale prices, which is simply laughable, and pointless, and the keen eyed bargain spotting gamer knows well to avoid, and ultimately makes the sales pointless.

PSP and PSOne prices are equally ill judged. I’m quite sure that a far better price point for these titles would see many more units shifting. Taking basic revenue out of the equation, when you are trying to shift systems and you have this large back catalogue of games, when it comes down to selling x amount at one price, or double for half the price would you not rather reach a bigger audience? I think the pricing of these games in particular are a missed opportunity. One of the bigger draws for the mobile phone games market is the affordability of games after all.

It’s not a difficult concept and it’s all too easy to say everything should be cheaper, we would all choose to save money if we could, but the reality is that we do choose to. The store should just try to adapt to changes in the real world and in real time. Sony have people managing these things. What is it that they do? Make their weekly posts and ignore all of the negative feedback fro the PlayStation fans unhappy with things as they are?

Too long didn’t read? The price point for Vita games should be slightly lower – as handheld platform pricing should never be the same as console however powerful it is – and the online store should be slightly lower still. and react and adapt to real time prices. And memory cards have silly prices.

Although I now need a 64GB one please. But I’m not paying £160 for it.

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Sorry Sony but only Apple can get away with charging ridiculous prices.

 



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Been saying it forever. Sony and MS need to charge less for digital. It's ridiculous. I think next gen this will happen.

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kowenicki said:
Been saying it forever. Sony and MS need to charge less for digital. It's ridiculous. I think next gen this will happen.

It BETTER happen.



kowenicki said:
Been saying it forever. Sony and MS need to charge less for digital. It's ridiculous. I think next gen this will happen.


Dont they already do that? (not sure cause I havent checked/bought anything from PSN and I dont have an Xbox.)

 

Are you talking about the system's own digital copies or older system games like the PS2 games?



BasilZero said:
kowenicki said:
Been saying it forever. Sony and MS need to charge less for digital. It's ridiculous. I think next gen this will happen.


Dont they already do that? (not sure cause I havent checked/bought anything from PSN and I dont have an Xbox.)

 

Are you talking about the system's own digital copies or older system games like the PS2 games?

One example I'll give is day 1 digital deals the PS Store has. Why is a digital version of a game 60$ when you get no disc, no case, no manual which effectively remove the production costs of the game and then you also don't have to ship the console to retailers which further reduces the price. I don't understand this.



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KingofRome said:
BasilZero said:
kowenicki said:
Been saying it forever. Sony and MS need to charge less for digital. It's ridiculous. I think next gen this will happen.


Dont they already do that? (not sure cause I havent checked/bought anything from PSN and I dont have an Xbox.)

 

Are you talking about the system's own digital copies or older system games like the PS2 games?

One example I'll give is day 1 digital deals the PS Store has. Why is a digital version of a game 60$ when you get no disc, no case, no manual which effectively remove the production factor of the game and then you also don't have to ship the console to retailers which further reduces the price. I don't understand this.

I see - They do that on Steam though so its nothing new unless if the game sells crappy or if the publisher/developer decides to cut the price on it.



I agree. I prefer to have digital copies of most of my games and why should I pay the same/more price for something that doesn't come with a disk/manual/case ect...????

 

Also with retail copies, more money is involved. The people being payed increases IE: the retailer itself, people driving the trucks carrying the games, store employees, ect. With digital shouldn't the only people involved be the developer, the publisher, and MS/Sony???



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I have been saying this same thing for over a year now since I saw some of the prices of XBL being 4 to 5 times retail. Even Nintendo is guilty to a lesser extent.

They seem to be doing this so as not to undercut the retailers. I suppose Sony/MS/Ninty just don't want to pickle off their retail partners as they are a big part of the marketing of games/consoles.

This will hopefully become less of a problem when more consumers accept digital distribution as the future and slowly let retail become less important.

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Don't expect much change if next gen still uses blu-ray or whatever.

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BasilZero said:
KingofRome said:
BasilZero said:
kowenicki said:
Been saying it forever. Sony and MS need to charge less for digital. It's ridiculous. I think next gen this will happen.


Dont they already do that? (not sure cause I havent checked/bought anything from PSN and I dont have an Xbox.)

 

Are you talking about the system's own digital copies or older system games like the PS2 games?

One example I'll give is day 1 digital deals the PS Store has. Why is a digital version of a game 60$ when you get no disc, no case, no manual which effectively remove the production factor of the game and then you also don't have to ship the console to retailers which further reduces the price. I don't understand this.

I see - They do that on Steam though so its nothing new unless if the game sells crappy or if the publisher/developer decides to cut the price on it.

They do that cause retailers dont want to be undercut, cause if they are they stop using showfloor for company items like console and acessories.