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-- Was it a debate? A berating? A surreal televised "stunt"? No matter what you call radio host Alex Jones' appearance on "Piers Morgan Tonight," one thing is certain: It's generating a great deal of social media buzz.

On Tuesday morning, Jones was a top-trending topic on Twitter as people read about the interview, watched clips online or shared their thoughts after watching Monday night's fiery exchange live.

The man behind a petition to deport Morgan back to the UK for expressing his views on gun control went on the attack, calling the CNN host "a hatchet man of the new world order."

"1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms!" Jones yelled. "It doesn't matter how many lemmings (mindless followers) you get out on the street begging for them to have their guns taken! We will not relinquish them! Do you understand?"

Morgan has pushed for stricter gun controls since a gunman killed 27 people before committing suicide last month in Newtown, Connecticut -- 26 of them in a mass shooting at an elementary school, including 20 children.

"I'm in favor of a nationwide ban on military-style semiautomatic assault weapons and high-capacity magazines," he said as he opened his Monday night show, before introducing Jones.

Alex Jones: "The Republic will rise again when you attempt to take our guns"

Watch: 'Deport Piers Morgan' host's rant, Part 1

Jones' petition, posted on the White House website, accuses Morgan of being "engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment." It has more than 100,000 signatures.

Morgan prefaced his confrontation with Jones with a live report on Monday's testimony by Aurora movie theater shooting suspect James Holmes and a live interview with relatives of two victims who died in a hail of bullets unleashed there from a military-style rifle in July.

"I appreciate you having your First Amendment right. I am glad you are speaking out," said Dave Hoover, whose nephew died in the movie theater.

Read more: Piers Morgan and guests react to various gun incidents

'World tyranny' warning

Jones thanked Morgan for having him on the show, and then said he and others started the petition to point out that "we have all of these foreigners" and globalist forces, including "megabanks that control the planet," trying to take away American guns.

"When they get our guns, they can have their world tyranny," he said.

Morgan's attempt to interject questions ran up against Jones' heated chatter, leading up to a crescendo with a list of despotic world leaders who he said took away guns: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Chavez.

Live Blog: "Guns in America," a discussion

As Jones continued with the lecture, Morgan looked on, tight-lipped, and observed and waited.

After 2½ minutes, Jones rounded it off with a friendly offer to take Morgan out shooting, so he could "become an American" and "join the Republic."

He also offered to climb into a boxing ring with Morgan. At the end of the interview, he imitated the Briton's English accent, before declaring him a "Redcoat" who should go back to where he came from.

Watch: 'Deport Piers Morgan' host's rant, Part 2

Morgan asked: "Are you finished?"

Jones said: "Yes." Then he began a tirade against makers of antidepressant drugs.

Jones said he owns about 50 weapons. His radio show can be heard on 140 radio shows around the country, he said.

'Meltdown' or 'punching out'?

Reactions on social media were blunt.

New York University journalism professor Jay Rosen called it a "meltdown" and called Jones "revolting."

James Poniewozik, TV columnist for Time -- which, like CNN, is part of Time Warner -- wrote, sarcastically: "Shocking: You reward a lunatic on TV for pulling a stunt," and he fails to "behave with civility."

The Huffington Post summarized the program this way: "Piers Morgan's pro-gun guest goes absolutely nuts at him."

Jones retweeted a supportive note from Gerald Celente, who has 36,000 followers. "Bravo," the tweet said, praising Jones for "punching out CNN Presstitute Piers Morgan."

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Piers Morgan: Sandy Hook must be a tipping point for change

Jones' appearance was followed by an interview with famed attorney and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz.

"We lawyers refer to people like that not as witnesses, but as exhibits," he said of Jones. "He was an exhibit, like a piece of evidence. You see him speaking and you say to yourself, 'I don't want that man to have a gun.' "

Dershowitz said Americans who want even-handed gun policy should not leave the arguments up to gun advocates such as the National Rifle Association and Jones without speaking up themselves.

"We have to fulfill what the real meaning of the Second Amendment is: reasonable access to guns for self-protection and for hunting. And there's no room in America for these semiautomatic, automatic and other kinds of weapons that are simply designed to cause mass havoc," Dershowitz said.

In addition to the limitations on military-style rifles, Morgan wants gun show loopholes closed and demands that gun dealers be required to run background checks on purchasers at shows.

He also advocates an increase in federal funding for mental health treatment to anyone who needs it.

Morgan recently wrote a column in the Daily Mail saying that for every critic, he has had many Americans thank him for speaking up in favor of gun control.

"If you don't change your gun laws to at least try to stop this relentless tidal wave of murderous carnage, then you don't have to worry about deporting me.

"Although I love the country as a second home and one that has treated me incredibly well, I would, as a concerned parent first -- and latterly, of a one-year-old daughter who may attend an American elementary school like Sandy Hook in three years' time -- seriously consider deporting myself," he wrote.

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At least this is on the minds of Americans. Even though, Alex Jones is a very loud and obnoxious, he didn't concede and let Piers Morgan do the same (as he had done to Larry Pratt.) So all in all this will put the topic on people's minds, and it will make it much harder for secret legislation (like Feinstein's bill) to be pulled off. It is clear to me that the only way to debate emotionally oriented people is to be emotionally oriented yourself. Just citing facts and statistics is not effective against people who will yell at you, and everybody knows from the interview with Larry Pratt that Morgan wouldn't have acted any more civil than Jones, if given the chance. Of course, Jones was using this to get attention to his radio show, and I couldn't care less about that. Much of what he says is ridiculous on it, but I'm glad that he's at least constitutionally minded and cares about the more than just the second amendment, but also the fourth and the fifth quite often.

No why should everyone suffer because a few decide to go on a killing spree? And look at the states these mass shootings happen in, Gun Free zones. So getting rid of guns won't solve anything only create more problems.

sc94597 said:
At least this is on the minds of Americans. Even though, Alex Jones is a very loud and obnoxious, he didn't concede and let Piers Morgan do the same (as he had done to Larry Pratt.) So all in all this will put the topic on people's minds, and it will make it much harder for secret legislation (like Feinstein's bill) to be pulled off. It is clear to me that the only way to debate emotionally oriented people is to be emotionally oriented yourself. Just citing facts and statistics is not effective against people who will yell at you, and everybody knows from the interview with Larry Pratt that Morgan wouldn't have acted any more civil than Jones, if given the chance. Of course, Jones was using this to get attention to his radio show, and I couldn't care less about that. Much of what he says is ridiculous on it, but I'm glad that he's at least constitutionally minded and cares about the more than just the second amendment, but also the fourth and the fifth quite often.

Yeah, Morgan knew what he was doing. Jones is the epitome of a bombthrower, so all Piers had to do was shut his fucking mouth (for once) and today everyone is writing about how "rational" he was and how Jones' tirade was a great argument for abridging the Second Amendment. By that logic, I suppose Piers Morgan's entire career is a great argument for abridging the First.



As much as it pains me to say this, Piers is right. He's still the biggest asshole on the planet though

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NobleTeam360 said:
No why should everyone suffer because a few decide to go on a killing spree? 


Yeah people will really suffer by not having assault rifles at home.  Can you imagine living without an assault rifle, what a struggle.



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KylieDog said:
NobleTeam360 said:
No why should everyone suffer because a few decide to go on a killing spree? 


Yeah people will really suffer by not having assault rifles at home.  Can you imagine living without an assault rifle, what a struggle

Holy shit, please educate yourself at least. This topic has been discussed for the last month and you still think an assault weapon = assault rifle.



KylieDog said:
NobleTeam360 said:
No why should everyone suffer because a few decide to go on a killing spree? 


Yeah people will really suffer by not having assault rifles at home.  Can you imagine living without an assault rifle, what a struggle.


assault rifle? who even owns those. they're illegal. have been since 1986. and have been heavily restricted and regulated since 1934.



badgenome said:
sc94597 said:
At least this is on the minds of Americans. Even though, Alex Jones is a very loud and obnoxious, he didn't concede and let Piers Morgan do the same (as he had done to Larry Pratt.) So all in all this will put the topic on people's minds, and it will make it much harder for secret legislation (like Feinstein's bill) to be pulled off. It is clear to me that the only way to debate emotionally oriented people is to be emotionally oriented yourself. Just citing facts and statistics is not effective against people who will yell at you, and everybody knows from the interview with Larry Pratt that Morgan wouldn't have acted any more civil than Jones, if given the chance. Of course, Jones was using this to get attention to his radio show, and I couldn't care less about that. Much of what he says is ridiculous on it, but I'm glad that he's at least constitutionally minded and cares about the more than just the second amendment, but also the fourth and the fifth quite often.

Yeah, Morgan knew what he was doing. Jones is the epitome of a bombthrower, so all Piers had to do was shut his fucking mouth (for once) and today everyone is writing about how "rational" he was and how Jones' tirade was a great argument for abridging the Second Amendment. By that logic, I suppose Piers Morgan's entire career is a great argument for abridging the First.

Less sinister than that (or perhaps more sinister, depending on how you look at it), Morgan made a halfway innocent comment about gun control (natural enough due to culture gap), so Jones did what any good pundit does: make an outlandishly over-the-top response (netting him a lot of attention), which Morgan then reciprocated. Morgan's ratings go up, Jones ratings go up, nothing gets solved.



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sc94597 said:
KylieDog said:
NobleTeam360 said:
No why should everyone suffer because a few decide to go on a killing spree? 


Yeah people will really suffer by not having assault rifles at home.  Can you imagine living without an assault rifle, what a struggle

Holy shit, please educate yourself at least. This topic has been discussed for the last month and you still think an assault weapon = assault rifle.

Ignore real issue, argue over definitions. 

Well done.



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