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Will JRPGs ever rise in popularity?

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think-man said:
kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
I hope they come back to there former glory! this gen has been total shit when it comes to JRPGs.


The Lost Odyssey was very good. It had everything that made Final Fantasy good during the hight of Squaresoft's success.

BTW, you might be interested in this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573261866/pier-solar-hd-an-rpg-for-xbox360-pc-mac-linux-and

I'm getting the Dreamcast version, but there are current gen versions as well.

Pier solar looks amazing! i'll probably get the PC version, sucks they aren't making a PS3 version :(

 

Edit: I found this on there page so there is still hope :D - WM Team

P.S we might just have our eyes on PS3...who knows? :D

Even if it doesn't happen you cans till get it and Lost Odyssey on 360 and enjoy some classic JRPG goodness.



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kain_kusanagi said:
I've always had a love/hate relationship with JRPGs. I loved the fantasy and technological worlds and interesting characters and stories, but I hated the random battles and turn based combat.

The genre has been stuck in the same mode it was in back in the 8bit days. Back then the genre was limited by technology so the games couldn't have it all. Those limited became cliches that the genre has not broken free from. Wester RPG makers brought modern gameplay to RPGs, that's why Mass Effect is so popular and why it's so damn good.

The only thing that will save JRPG from slowly fading into oblivious is for JRPG devs to leave behind the cliches that they have relied on for far too long and bring modern gameplay into their worlds and stories.

this. couldnt agree more



The cost of building a lively world with the presentation levels gamers expect today; that happened.



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kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
I hope they come back to there former glory! this gen has been total shit when it comes to JRPGs.


The Lost Odyssey was very good. It had everything that made Final Fantasy good during the hight of Squaresoft's success.

BTW, you might be interested in this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573261866/pier-solar-hd-an-rpg-for-xbox360-pc-mac-linux-and

I'm getting the Dreamcast version, but there are current gen versions as well.

Pier solar looks amazing! i'll probably get the PC version, sucks they aren't making a PS3 version :(

 

Edit: I found this on there page so there is still hope :D - WM Team

P.S we might just have our eyes on PS3...who knows? :D

Even if it doesn't happen you cans till get it and Lost Odyssey on 360 and enjoy some classic JRPG goodness.


I've already got Lost Odyssey :P



The biggest problem is the companies that take their classic, venerable JRPG franchises and attempt to turn them into something they're not.  Recent releases under the Final Fantasy banner are a good example of this.  If more games were released that were proudly old-fashioned (Ni No Kuni, Fire Emblem, Lost Odyssey, Etrian Odyssey, etc) the genre would be in much better shape.

In many ways, Square is sort of trashing the image of JRPG and mucking it up with wild, sometimes ill-befitting gameplay ideas that make it appear as though the genre is in decline.

There are just two different paths developers are taking JRPGs in.  One path is to try and alter the fundamentals to appeal to a western audience (sometimes with mixed results, sometimes successful), and the other path is just to carry on as if nothing has changed and sell to your loyal fanbase, sometimes attracting new players.  



 

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Max King of the Wild said:
I like the simplified JRPGs, I liked wild arms on playstation. Earth Bound on nes. Final fantasy VII and VIII on playstation. I played for the story not game play. When they started all this realtime action nonsense or ridiculous overcomplicated stats and stuffs is when i fell out of liking them.

EarthBound was on the SNES.

I agree with you though. What make's JRPGs great was great story telling and simple gameplay. Reason why I love Lost Odyssey and can't stand the Tales series.



think-man said:
kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
I hope they come back to there former glory! this gen has been total shit when it comes to JRPGs.


The Lost Odyssey was very good. It had everything that made Final Fantasy good during the hight of Squaresoft's success.

BTW, you might be interested in this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573261866/pier-solar-hd-an-rpg-for-xbox360-pc-mac-linux-and

I'm getting the Dreamcast version, but there are current gen versions as well.

Pier solar looks amazing! i'll probably get the PC version, sucks they aren't making a PS3 version :(

 

Edit: I found this on there page so there is still hope :D - WM Team

P.S we might just have our eyes on PS3...who knows? :D

Even if it doesn't happen you cans till get it and Lost Odyssey on 360 and enjoy some classic JRPG goodness.


I've already got Lost Odyssey :P

Oh, well I'm sure there are some decent jRPGs out there for you to find. Maybe there are some last gen titles you missed. Have you palyed Skies of Arcadia. It was the best of the gen. First on Dreamcast and then ported to Gamecube.



Lyrikalstylez said:
JRPG's are boring in my opinion,I played the demo of ni no kuni and granted I really really wanted to like it but the turn battles are just horribly boring. If jrpgs implemented battle systems like kingdom hearts, ill be fine with them


To it's credit, I have read in multiple previews that the battle system gets much deeper and more strategic as the game progresses.  Take the demo with a grain of salt... it's from a very early part of the game where it's still teaching the player the ropes.



 

kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
I hope they come back to there former glory! this gen has been total shit when it comes to JRPGs.


The Lost Odyssey was very good. It had everything that made Final Fantasy good during the hight of Squaresoft's success.

BTW, you might be interested in this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573261866/pier-solar-hd-an-rpg-for-xbox360-pc-mac-linux-and

I'm getting the Dreamcast version, but there are current gen versions as well.

Pier solar looks amazing! i'll probably get the PC version, sucks they aren't making a PS3 version :(

 

Edit: I found this on there page so there is still hope :D - WM Team

P.S we might just have our eyes on PS3...who knows? :D

Even if it doesn't happen you cans till get it and Lost Odyssey on 360 and enjoy some classic JRPG goodness.


I've already got Lost Odyssey :P

Oh, well I'm sure there are some decent jRPGs out there for you to find. Maybe there are some last gen titles you missed. Have you palyed Skies of Arcadia. It was the best of the gen. First on Dreamcast and then ported to Gamecube.


No I missed that title :O just youtubing it now.



kain_kusanagi said:
think-man said:
I hope they come back to there former glory! this gen has been total shit when it comes to JRPGs.


The Lost Odyssey was very good. It had everything that made Final Fantasy good during the hight of Squaresoft's success.

BTW, you might be interested in this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573261866/pier-solar-hd-an-rpg-for-xbox360-pc-mac-linux-and

I'm getting the Dreamcast version, but there are current gen versions as well.

You probably know this, but Lost Odyssey was as good as you say because the guy in charge of Final Fantasy at the height of the series in the late 1990s/eary 2000s created it.  Hironobu Sakaguchi.