Forums - Politics Discussion - How would America handle socialistic programs being shut down?

Everyone says they are sick of paying for the poor, elderly, insane, etc. But how would this country deal with these programs being closed down? Not even automatically. Lets say over a five year time period.

 

Clinton greatly reduced dependence on Welfare in America during his second term in office. The country is still here. Now Medicare is being cut, and America is struggling to afford other programs. Would everything be alright if 90%-100% of socialistic programs were shut down?

 

Maybe we should? Better than cutting defense. Other countries are just biding their time for when we do. Guarrantee it!



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We aren't sick of paying for the poor, elderly, and insane. We are sick of paying for those that abuse the system and don't deserve it.

Instead of cutting the programs we just need to kick people off the dole that don't deserve it.

My money shouldn't go to a third generation welfare abuser who gets free money and housing and uses his checks to buy beer and cigarettes.



Yeah, close the programs for the insane, why would someone who would kill people and not even realize it need to be taken care of anyway? -_-

Honestly, if the people who complain about having to pay for poor/elderly actually take care of them themselves those programs could be shut down. But I don't think it'll happen.

kain_kusanagi said:

We aren't sick of paying for the poor, elderly, and insane. We are sick of paying for those that abuse the system and don't deserve it.

Instead of cutting the programs we just need to kick people off the dole that don't deserve it.

My money shouldn't go to a third generation welfare abuser who gets free money and housing and uses his checks to buy beer and cigarettes.



Problem is. Just because the poor and elderly and insane and whoever else are not rich greedy politicians, does not mean they do not abuse the system. That is why Clinton made Welfare 5 years and your done. More or less.

 

Plus some programs like food stamps may not actually be that bad for the economy. But still, most add up to a lot of money.



Sure, I don't see why not.


It has worked for many other civilized countries.

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I think they'll be fine with it.

Just distract them with military ads during football games and other sporting events and have the Department of Defe... err... Offense fund a ton of hollywood films for their consumption.

Turn the populace into a bunch of jingos and tell them social programs are a necessary sacrifice in order to "protect Amuurka".

spurgeonryan said:

Clinton greatly reduced dependence on Welfare in America during his second term in office. The country is still here. Now Medicare is being cut, and America is struggling to afford other programs. Would everything be alright if 90%-100% of socialistic programs were shut down?

 

Maybe we should?  Better than cutting defense. Other countries are just biding their time for when we do. Guarrantee it!

PRWORA and TANF had/have their own issues though... Clinton nuetered welfare but it was short-sighted.

Cutting "defense" is actually what's needed.



IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Sure, I don't see why not.


It has worked for many other civilized countries.



.....such as?



spurgeonryan said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Sure, I don't see why not.


It has worked for many other civilized countries.

 

.....such as?


Well, I was hoping you could fill me in on that part.



kain_kusanagi said:

We aren't sick of paying for the poor, elderly, and insane. We are sick of paying for those that abuse the system and don't deserve it.

Instead of cutting the programs we just need to kick people off the dole that don't deserve it.

My money shouldn't go to a third generation welfare abuser who gets free money and housing and uses his checks to buy beer and cigarettes.

I agree with this. The government should promote welfare and betterment in those who place their economic welfare into its hands, such that they will get no actual money period, but only entitlements to certain things (housing, clothing, health care, food, access to transportation, mandatory education or employment training so long as they're not too unhealthy to do so), and that the things they are given should be only what they need to be given. For instance, food stamps should only cover healthy food.



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kain_kusanagi said:

We aren't sick of paying for the poor, elderly, and insane. We are sick of paying for those that abuse the system and don't deserve it.

Instead of cutting the programs we just need to kick people off the dole that don't deserve it.

My money shouldn't go to a third generation welfare abuser who gets free money and housing and uses his checks to buy beer and cigarettes while rolling in an escalade and talking on an iphone.



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