im not following you. you know when i say its in its 3rd year i mean its currently going threw it, not it has finished 3 years right? anyways we are getting off topic arent we?

It's really nice to see both games do so well. Halo 4 especially. Real commendable effort put in by 343 industries and Microsoft.

But I really don't feel the need to act like a bully and rub salt in people's wounds. I'm rather new to this forum but there's this particular member, whenever I read his posts I can't help but picture a bully. A very big bully. And he is in this thread. Not going to name him.

The way people feel the need to bully others with words and talk down to them just because they aren't on the same page is really quite sad. We should be congratulating both Sony and Microsoft for doing so well and producing such wonderful games for us to play.

I never said anything about success. This is comparing sales of the 2 games, not the success. GT5 has sold extremely well over the course of 2011 and 2012. Its had tremendous legs, even when using VGChartz vastly undertracked numbers.

Im curious if Halo 4 can match GT5 for legs despite opening with far greater numbers.

There is a reasonable explanation as to why Halo 4 will outsell GTA5 and has substantially outsold it week over week when comparing launches. Sony foolishly thought that they had the ability to sell games without massive advertising campaigns that M$ does. I just hope that they've learned their lesson for next gen.

Agreed!

9.2 Million shipped at the end of September.
7.9 Million "sold" at the end of September.
8.6 Million "sold" as of 22nd December.

Are you seriously saying that you think that isnt undertracked? According to VGChartz it has still yet to get to within 500k of that September shipment.

1.3 Million units on ships/shelves is simply far too much for a game that hadnt even sold 1.3 Million in 2012 at that time.

To be fair, the console was very expensive for its age.

Its nice to see that the Xbox biggest gun is still bigger then the other guys biggest gun.

Thing is, there's also Halo 3 and Halo Reach that also outsold the game. PD should take note. One-trick ponies (one full game per gen) for your #1 IP is just wrong.

Halo fans must only play Halo I have about 40 friends on 360 I met playing various games including Reach and only 1 or 2 I ever see playing Halo 4.

A shooter versus a racing game doesn't sound really fair imho. I don't like or own or played either game, so whatever.