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The congress spends the money, not the president. This is a repost from a thread comment of mine but some of you need a civics lesson really, really bad.

Article I, Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;


To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.



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I think that the debt ceiling is actually unconstitutional. The congress spent the money and now don't want to pay. They want to use it for political purposes to trick people into blaming the president of the united states. Rather the congress needs to pay for what it has spent, not hold social programs and the poor accountable for there actions. The republicans created all of this mess with in the 8 years under bush. They controlled both house's and spent like drunkin sailors and used war and fear to do so. Now they want to b-tch.

The 14th Amendment

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.



What is a potus?

FACT:

Under Obama the U.S debt raised $6 Trillion in 4 years

Under Bush the U.S. debt raised $4.9 Trillion in 8 years

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I'm an American*, what's this commie civics crap?



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Bigsilvs said:
FACT:

Under Obama the U.S debt raised $6 Trillion in 4 years

Under Bush the U.S. debt raised $4.9 Trillion in 8 years



bush never put the wars on the debt, obama put them on. so most of that is still bush, plus bush worked on bailing out the banks as well. So your number are a joke and the 6 trillion is the result of a fool in office.





Paul said:
What is a potus?



President of the united states.



spaceguy said:

bush never put the wars on the debt, obama put them on. so most of that is still bush, plus bush worked on bailing out the banks as well. So your number are a joke and the 6 trillion is the result of a fool in office.

Uh... wrong. The wars were kept off the budget. This just means that they were dealt with in emergency spending bills. They still showed up in the federal deficits.



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Bigsilvs said:
FACT:

Under Obama the U.S debt raised $6 Trillion in 4 years

Under Bush the U.S. debt raised $4.9 Trillion in 8 years



As you can see it's all the GOP policies who have put us in this much debt. Fact!!!