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mai on 02 January 2013

EdHieron said:

NES Versus PC Engine and Sega Master System;, Gameboy Versus PC Express and Atari Jaguar, Gameboy Color versus Neo Geo Pocket Color, Gameboy Advance Versus N-Gage, DS ( all iterations) versus PSP, Wii Versus 360 and Playstation 3, 3DS versus Vita and IOS, and Android Devices, Wii U versus Orbis and Durango.  In all those instances Nintendo had the inferior technology.

 

The only times they've had comparable or better technology were Super Nintendo ( lacked external CD-Rom Drive), N64 ( lacked CD-Rom Drive)  Gamecube ( lacked DVD).

I think you meant a different, quite smaller cat :D

In all, or almost all instances you're referring to, Nintendo launced first, so naturally competition had slightly more powerful hardware, but nothing so drastically different as Wii/PS360 (even DS/PSP don't count since DS is a significant upgrade power-wise over GBA). So if anything Nintendo far outlasted competition in handful of the situations you listed despite not being technologically superior. Here goes down your entire point you're trying to make.



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EdHieron on 02 January 2013
S.Peelman said:
EdHieron said:
S.Peelman said:
EdHieron said:

If you look at the history of Nintendo and their consoles, you see that they tend to release new consoles that lag behind in technology, (..)

This is all I read. Why? The first sentence is already wrong. They launched a system which lagged behind in technology (power-wise at least) only once.

OT (judging from the title): No, not until at least 2017.


NES Versus PC Engine and Sega Master System;, Gameboy Versus PC Express and Atari Jaguar, Gameboy Color versus Neo Geo Pocket Color, Gameboy Advance Versus N-Gage, DS ( all iterations) versus PSP, Wii Versus 360 and Playstation 3, 3DS versus Vita and IOS, and Android Devices, Wii U versus Orbis and Durango.  In all those instances Nintendo had the inferior technology.

 

The only times they've had comparable or better technology were Super Nintendo ( lacked external CD-Rom Drive), N64 ( lacked CD-Rom Drive)  Gamecube ( lacked DVD).

Blahblahblah. All were in the same ballpark.

Lagging behind =/= slightly less powerfull than their competitor (and ahead of others I might add). Lagging behind happened only once.


The PC Express could play 8 / 16 bit games on the go, the PSP was dramatically more powerful than DS as is the Vita to 3DS, the 360 and PS3 are dramatically more powerful than Wii as most likely will be the next Microsoft and Sony consoles in comparison to Wii U, so it's happened quite a bit more than once.



flagstaad on 02 January 2013
Lafiel said:

Do you expect Wii Fit U to be a major title? I think it's possible the franchise drops off quite a bit like Brain Training or Nintendogs.

It can be both a major title AND drop off a lot. Wii fit sold 22.73 millions worlwide, Wii Fit Plus sold 21.03 million unit, so if this new one only sells 25% of the previous ones we are still talking about 5.5 million units and that is still a major title with a big drop off.



EdHieron on 02 January 2013
mai said:

EdHieron said:

NES Versus PC Engine and Sega Master System;, Gameboy Versus PC Express and Atari Jaguar, Gameboy Color versus Neo Geo Pocket Color, Gameboy Advance Versus N-Gage, DS ( all iterations) versus PSP, Wii Versus 360 and Playstation 3, 3DS versus Vita and IOS, and Android Devices, Wii U versus Orbis and Durango.  In all those instances Nintendo had the inferior technology.

 

The only times they've had comparable or better technology were Super Nintendo ( lacked external CD-Rom Drive), N64 ( lacked CD-Rom Drive)  Gamecube ( lacked DVD).

I think you meant a different, quite smaller cat :D

In all, or almost all instances you're referring to, Nintendo launced first, so naturally competition had slightly more powerful hardware, but nothing so drastically different as Wii/PS360 (even DS/PSP don't count since DS is a significant upgrade power-wise over GBA). So if anything Nintendo far outlasted competition in handful of the situations you listed despite not being technologically superior. Here goes down your entire point you're trying to make.


Something kept Wii from being able to get a 50% marketshare this time out versus the HD Twins.  Must have had something to do with the third parties preferring the Twins since, like their next iterations are going to be, they were quite a bit more powerful than Wii.



mai on 02 January 2013

EdHieron said:

The PC Express could play 8 / 16 bit games on the go, the PSP was dramatically more powerful than DS as is the Vita to 3DS, the 360 and PS3 are dramatically more powerful than Wii as most likely will be the next Microsoft and Sony consoles in comparison to Wii U, so it's happened quite a bit more than once.

No, it's not, at least not in the same area as Wii/PS360 situation. DS is your N64 minus texture filtering and far better framerate, PSP is not a PS2 by all means = in the same ballpark. So the only gen when Nintendo deliberately gimped specs in order to purse other opportunities is 7th gen, namely the Wii.



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EdHieron on 02 January 2013
mai said:

EdHieron said:

The PC Express could play 8 / 16 bit games on the go, the PSP was dramatically more powerful than DS as is the Vita to 3DS, the 360 and PS3 are dramatically more powerful than Wii as most likely will be the next Microsoft and Sony consoles in comparison to Wii U, so it's happened quite a bit more than once.

No, it's not, at least not in the same area as Wii/PS360 situation. DS is your N64 minus texture filtering and far better framerate, PSP is not a PS2 by all means = in the same ballpark. So the only gen when Nintendo deliberately gimped specs in order to purse other opportunities is 7th gen, namely the Wii.




"Processing Power
This one is obviously in the PSP's favor. While the Nintendo DS has a very capable 3D chip, able to render the likes of Super Mario 64, it's no contest that the PSP has more raw power than the DS. Even the launch games (which didn't exactly have a ton of time to be developed) approach the graphical abilities of the PlayStation 2. Comparing a PS2 to the N64 is like night and day, and that's pretty much the same comparison that can be made here. Really, this one is no contest.

Winner: PSP"


http://www.ign.com/articles/2005/03/29/sony-psp-vs-nintendo-ds

Doesn't sound like they're in the same ballpark to me.



gronk-bonk on 02 January 2013
EdHieron said:
mai said:

EdHieron said:

NES Versus PC Engine and Sega Master System;, Gameboy Versus PC Express and Atari Jaguar, Gameboy Color versus Neo Geo Pocket Color, Gameboy Advance Versus N-Gage, DS ( all iterations) versus PSP, Wii Versus 360 and Playstation 3, 3DS versus Vita and IOS, and Android Devices, Wii U versus Orbis and Durango.  In all those instances Nintendo had the inferior technology.

 

The only times they've had comparable or better technology were Super Nintendo ( lacked external CD-Rom Drive), N64 ( lacked CD-Rom Drive)  Gamecube ( lacked DVD).

I think you meant a different, quite smaller cat :D

In all, or almost all instances you're referring to, Nintendo launced first, so naturally competition had slightly more powerful hardware, but nothing so drastically different as Wii/PS360 (even DS/PSP don't count since DS is a significant upgrade power-wise over GBA). So if anything Nintendo far outlasted competition in handful of the situations you listed despite not being technologically superior. Here goes down your entire point you're trying to make.


Something kept Wii from being able to get a 50% marketshare this time out versus the HD Twins.  Must have had something to do with the third parties preferring the Twins since, like their next iterations are going to be, they were quite a bit more powerful than Wii.


did the sony or microsoft win the generation? lmfao Nintendo must be doing something right



Bet with ninjablade:

Ninjablade wins if the next 5 multiplat on the wii u are inferior to the 360 version.

I win if one of the 5 mulitplats are on par or superior on the Wii U.

EdHieron on 02 January 2013
gronk-bonk said:
EdHieron said:
mai said:

EdHieron said:

NES Versus PC Engine and Sega Master System;, Gameboy Versus PC Express and Atari Jaguar, Gameboy Color versus Neo Geo Pocket Color, Gameboy Advance Versus N-Gage, DS ( all iterations) versus PSP, Wii Versus 360 and Playstation 3, 3DS versus Vita and IOS, and Android Devices, Wii U versus Orbis and Durango.  In all those instances Nintendo had the inferior technology.

 

The only times they've had comparable or better technology were Super Nintendo ( lacked external CD-Rom Drive), N64 ( lacked CD-Rom Drive)  Gamecube ( lacked DVD).

I think you meant a different, quite smaller cat :D

In all, or almost all instances you're referring to, Nintendo launced first, so naturally competition had slightly more powerful hardware, but nothing so drastically different as Wii/PS360 (even DS/PSP don't count since DS is a significant upgrade power-wise over GBA). So if anything Nintendo far outlasted competition in handful of the situations you listed despite not being technologically superior. Here goes down your entire point you're trying to make.


Something kept Wii from being able to get a 50% marketshare this time out versus the HD Twins.  Must have had something to do with the third parties preferring the Twins since, like their next iterations are going to be, they were quite a bit more powerful than Wii.


did the sony or microsoft win the generation? lmfao Nintendo must be doing something right


If you want to group Wii in with the 7th gen consoles, which ones are still selling?



mai on 02 January 2013

EdHieron said:

Something kept Wii from being able to get a 50% marketshare this time out versus the HD Twins.  Must have had something to do with the third parties preferring the Twins since, like their next iterations are going to be, they were quite a bit more powerful than Wii.
EdHieron said:

If you want to group Wii in with the 7th gen consoles, which ones are still selling?

And now you're trying to change the subject of a post I was commenting (not the OP).

You fallaciously assumed that Wii/PS360 is a pattern spec-wise throughout the history, which is not.



Fireforgey on 02 January 2013
Andrespetmonkey said:
Fireforgey said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
LilChicken22 said:
There are two possible ways for Microsoft and Sony next-gen:

1: They will release an ultra powerful console, therefore so expensive no one's gonna buy it, certainly not in these days. Also, powerful consoles demand for beautiful games which are too expensive for most companies nowadays to make a profit on it.

2: They will release a more casual platform with forced casual games and accessories like the Kinect and Move. But casual gamers already lost interest in gaming after the Wii. Also not gonna work for them.

Why are these to only two options? The first option is an extreme, the second is getting there. Why not a moderately powerful console with a focus on hardcore gaming, but tries to cater to the casual audience as well?


Yeah I know, its like if they make one kinda like the Wii U.............O.o

I wouldn't call the Wii U a "moderately powerful" console in 2013. It's marginally more powerful than powerful consoles from 2006. PS4 and 720 being moderately powerful would be significantly more powerful than the Wii U, smaller gap than wii-HD twins, but bigger than ps2-xbox. People define "moderately" and "marginally" in different ways so I'll expand on that if you want.

I still don't get your point with this reply though, it's not like I out-ruled them making a similar console to the Wii U, so why the "O.o"?


I find it funny that people sit and talk about how much more powerful the next gen will be but in reallity it wont be that big.  I mean at most I beleive the difference will be like the difference between the PS2 and the Gamecube. In the end when someone looks at the options that those two companies have for their consoles the obvious route to take is the one everyone chides Nintendo for taking and I find it a little bit ironic.  Also, the Wii U is just a bit more powerful than most people think.  Its going to be a cool console war.  Sorry if my comment came of as deriding or insulting, it wasn't meant in that way.