It has nothing to do with the start button (though I shouldn't have to install Classic Shell to improve user experience) it is more to do with the fact that it is designed for touch screen use and, in my opinion, just does not function as well on my desktop.  There is really no need to be offensive because you don't share my opinion. 

I have Windows 8 on my laptop and I don't like it so much, It's easy to see why people are staying away from it, seemed cool at first, but got to become a pain.

I have multiple log in accounts on my desktop and one is called "Windows classic". There is absolutely no difference between Windows 7 and this account and the way it's set up. Start button with sub folders, boot to classic desktop...everything is there. I never have to deal with Metro when using this account. So I really don't understand this "designed for touch use" argument. With this fix, its as touch friendly as Windows 7.

I didn't mean to sound offensive, I just don't understand people that complain about something which has a 5 minute solution.  This is all you need to do - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVhhxXSS2sU

Otherwise i will go on record and say that I love the new windows 8 options and flexibility on my desktop. Pending how I feel like, I can decide to log in to classic windows interface only or the new metro interface and use it with a touch screen monitor I have, or a logitech T650 touchpad which works wonderfully. If I get bored of that, I can just use the standard mouse/keyboard combo with the modern UI/classic desktop combination across 3 monitors and have them all scale beautifuly.

Windows 7 is not half as flexible as this.

The problem is the desktop win8 should default to the "classic" setup vs the obviously touch designed Metro interface. Then there should be a suggestion to use Metro when it recognizes you have a touch interface. 

Currently it defaults to the UI that is not best suited for keyboard and mouse. Then only the tech savy users will figure out how to set it to classic mode.

The design should default to what is best for that device. Not force a user to be enlightenend enough to just know their is a magical fix.

Once you install classic shell it defaults to classic desktop. it even disables the bottom left corner which by default takes you to metro. The only way metro can be reached once you put classic shell is by choice(mouse to top corner and wait for charms tomappear and then click on start).

 I agree that more options enabled by windows 8 by default would be nice, jowever i wouldnt consider installing a program something that "tech savy" users are only able to do. if a user is not comfortable installing programs, they have no business upgrading operating systems...

Everyone needs to keep in mind that this is new windows 1.0 and these features like desktop detection and start button option may yet come to windows 8.  I expect big things from service pack 1...

I don't understand why people have to go to the "classic" setup anyways.

All the things that are apparently better suited for a touch interface? Yea, those same things work pretty amazingly with a mouse.

I absolutely love going to the upper left of my screen to go to different tabs. Or, if I just want to see all the tabs, I just easily slide my mouse downward. Or how I can easily make those tabs take up the left third of my screen. Or how I can easily slide my mouse down the right side to get all of those necessary options. Oh, and also, how that missing start button...yea, its a simple push of something called the Windows button. It is really simple. Or how about the fact that I can move my mouse to the lower left part of the screen, and right click, and have a whole array of awesome options.

All of this "Yea, it is definitely much more suited for touch screens" is really beginning to irritate me, considering every one of those things is incredibly easy to execute with a mouse/keyboard combo.

"raises hand" 

Bolded:  Thats like saying "Oh yeah the meal is totally free... you just need to pay for it first"

Italics: I think you greatly overestimate the skills of the majority people who use computers on a daily basis.

I don't think Win8 is a bad operating system.  I played around with it for a bit at the Appl... I mean Microsoft Store for a while one day and it was fine.  I just don't see why I need it over Win7.  And no I am not going to upgrade to Win8 just so I can install some programs to get it to behave like an OS I already own.

I think this is the 2nd tread for this same news. The first one might come from Dallas.

The fact around me is most of my friends and the desktops & laptops in my company just upgraded from XP to 7 last year because Microsoft finally ceased the supports on XP. So there is no big reason or intention for this group of people to upgrade to 8 in such short time.

But to say 8 is failure is too early. Let us wait and see what will go on~

Ugly UI .. that is all ! ..