You're right.  Fixed.

ethomaz said:



peachbuggy said:
@ ethomaz. Would love to see your YOY breakdown to explain how Ps3 can go from 70 odd million to 115m! For the record i believe the Wii could possibly reach 112m max, possibly more if Nintendo can somehow prolong its life in the developing markets. Wii mini could be the key.



Shipment  based.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=150842



You are already over 3m off and that's just with this years' predictions! Yet your predictions for 2013 and 2014 are even more ridiculous! It will lose even more ground and you really think it will sell so well, into 2017???!? even after all console manufacturers have released their nextgen consoles? I suggest you should revise your predictions!

because this site is filled with hardcore sony fanboys

Also, I think MS fans don't like this for two reasons. One, it means MS couldn't beat Sony, even with all the horrible mistakes Sony made early on (pricing, 1-1 1/2 years late, and no real SW support for a year or two). And two, it shows just how strong the PS brand is. That they could have so much working against them at the start and still place 2nd and end up selling ~90M. This is only going to help them next gen, especially in EU and Japan. They will also have a console that is relatively the same price as the NeXbox and will be coming out within 6 months of the NeXbox's launch.

It won't pass it, it will come close but it will not pass. Thats my prediction. Microsoft will pull something out of their sleeves i'm sure. They're not going to just hand over the sales lead to Sony.

He may not be off.  It'll sell ~12M this year.  However, they are always going o ship ~1.5M more consoles than they sell, especially around the holidays.  So they may very well end up with his 13.2M shipped.  Personally, after 2013, I see the PS3 dropping quicker than he does (I think it will reach 90M+.  But hey, who knows.

And what will that be?  Remember, MS already dropped the 360's price by $50 for 3 months in its best region.  It had a $99 360 plan at retailers.  It had a $149 SKU for Black Friday week.  Many retailers are still selling the $199 SKU for $179.  It had the a new game in its biggest exclusive franchise.  And with all that, the 360 still ended the year being much lower YOY than the PS3.  As opposed to the PS3, which only had the Super Slim, without a price cut (the entry price acctually went up $20 in America).  The only thing MS could to maybe slow/stop, but definitely not reverse, this trend is to start selling 360s for $49, and with Kinect for $99, all around the world.

Well of course MS fanboys will be a little dissapointed but they've been expecting it to happen for years since PS fanboys talk about it all the time. 

And you're acting like Microsoft made no mistakes. RROD was a gigantic mistake, and probably the biggest one made by any console maker this generation. 

The PS brand is strong, and was VERY strong when the PS3 launched, and that has helped the PS3 a lot. But now, the PS brand is much weaker then what it was 7 years ago. 

When it comes to this subject I think that fans on both sides (PS3, 360) are doing a lot of "moving the goal posts".

PS3 Fans: The PS3 is going to pass the 360 in 2010 2011 2012 2013

360 Fans: The PS3 is never going to pass the 360 Yeah well the gen is almost over so it doesn't it matter

lol

You really shouldn't just throw around the word fanboy like that.  Anyway, yes, RROD was a big mistake.  However, luckily for MS, other than the 1B it cost them in repairs, it was mostly swept under the rug.  I'm guessing that was helped by the fact that their biggest market was America.  There were countless posts and videos of people saying "No big deal, they fix it for free" or "That's what you get for buying the low-end model" or, and this is my favorite, "Just buy a new one." Don't get me wrong, they won't be able to survive that twice.  But, I suppose the late launch of the PS3, as well as it costing $200 more, allowed the majority of people to ignore RROD. 

Also, the PS brand is just as strong.  Yes, the PS3 will only come close to matching the PS1's numbers, but that was mostly due to its rocky start.  I imagine next gen we should see the PS brand in full spirits, again.