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Traitors, defectors, and lynch mobs oh my. This generation Sony lost a number of exclusives. Games, franchises, content, and developers. Which more often then not had a lot of Sony fans blowing their stacks, and defiling the names of those who dared to cross Sony. On these forums we had everything from despair, to the all too common claims of retaliations. We had developers that were ordained with god like powers of creativity and goodness at the start of some days. Only to be referred to as vermin at the end of those days. Since they had done that which was unforgiveable. They decided that they were going to release their game on multiple platforms, or worse they were going to give that other platform preferrential treatment.

On the whole I felt these events were humorous enough. Not just the logic that told these people to build these supposed exclusives into overly hyped monuments to the greatness of one platform over another, but the logic that had them doing their level best to diminish them once they weren't exclusive anymore, or in the end might even become monuments to the greatness of another console. I suppose in the world where the mantra was once it gets here they will come, and that is the only logic to be had to justify a unwaivering loyalty. Any developer who didn't meet those expectations would be considered a traitor. Even if their fealty was purely the work of over heated imaginations.

Which brings me to the point of this thread. I know some of you felt betrayed by the likes of Rockstar, Square, Capcom, and even Insomniac. Have you made your piece with what they did to you, or have you come to terms with with the idea that you were the one behaving badly and not them. Hell are you still to this day holding a grudge towards certain developers for their obvious betrayals. I want to know if someone of you have evolved on this or not, and if so where has your evolution taken you.

Now with that said it occurs to me that this thread doesn't have enough heat to long endure, and I really want to get a good long thread going. So I am going to toss something a bit more spicy on the table for those who like spicy things. Lets pretend I am someone who can get things done, and I have the power to get Microsoft to Money Hat a  particular franchise away from Sony next generation. Which franchise would you suggest that I should suggest. Not for the reason it is a game you want, but because it will cause the maximum amount of emotional harm to Sony loyalists.

Can you think of a game that can leave the kind of emotional scars that losing Final Fantasy XIII's exclusivity caused this generation. As far as blind Sony loyalty is concerned, or if you want to pontificate which games do you think Microsoft will steal away from Sony this next go around. Anyway feel free to answer one question or the other, or both if it suits you.



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I feel that it would be worse if it left your console and went exclusive on another...like Bayonetta 2 (that hurts). You still get to play these games, right? Or am I wrong? IDK.

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itsJabby said:
I feel that it would be worse if it left your console and went exclusive on another...like Bayonetta 2 (that hurts). You still get to play these games, right? Or am I wrong? IDK.

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playing your favorite game knowing a random internet fanboy of another console can't play and the said fanboy is port begging = priceless



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I've never, ever thought of third party franchises as being exclusive, only individual games, and then only because of circumstance. Final Fantasy leaving Nintendo, for example, was because of circumstances, which means it can go the other way in the future if the situation is different. I've never had the slightest feelings of "betrayal" over anything like that. Likewise, I've never thought of Final Fantasy XIII going multi-platform as anything bothersome, it's just a business decision that makes sense. It doesn't hurt me in the slightest, so it's a non-issue.

As for franchises leaving Sony and going to Microsoft, I can't think of many important exclusives that Sony doesn't own that aren't already multi-platform. I would have said Valkyria Chronicles, perhaps, but it doesn't look like Sega is going to do anything with that, regardless. Unless you mean taking a multi-platform franchise and making it exclusive to Microsoft? In that case, I think you could open this thread up to Microsoft fans, as that's a question that could go both ways. Personally, if that were to happen with either, I think the disappointment and anger would be justified. I hate seeing multi-platform franchises become exclusives for no other reason that money and I would definitely be lessing willing to support a developer or publisher that does that kind of thing.

Actually, I think a better question could be something that has a shot at happening; how will Microsoft fans feel if Epic takes Gears of War multi-platform?

What is a video game developer?



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Sony lost exclusivity yes, but its not like the games were cancelled on the PS3 and then moved to 360 (unless I am forgetting one). So....no it doesn't matter at all. Companies make more profit, more people play the game.

I admit the whole timed exclusive thing can be a bit annoying (CoD, GTA) but it always ends up on both platforms anyway. Also that now kind of goes both ways with ACIII having the PS3 exclusive DLC right now.

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Sometimes you make really good, insightful posts on interesting issues that get a lot said. And sometimes you take 5 paragraphs to ask something that could be said in 3 sentences. Just imo.

As for the topic, I really did not understand the upset about losing former 3rd-party exclusives. If they were lost in the sense that they went to Microsoft instead of being on Sony platforms, then I'd have some reason to be upset. But they're still here. I can still play Final Fantasy, Metal Gear & GTA on my PS3 (and tbh, they were the only 3 I really cared about anyway). Of course from a sales perspective it's a blow, but even then - am I upset that more people have access to these franchises than before? Not really.

For the last part of your post - as Pokoko says, what franchises are left to go over to Microsoft? Unless you mean that M$ moneyhats them to stay exclusive to 360 and not release on a PS platform at all, then I don't think that will happen. If it were to happen, then only something like Metal Gear Solid 5 would truly bother me, I think I am over Final Fantasy these days. And I cannot see that ever happening - because Kojima - and Japan. If, through some strange twist of fate, it did happen, then I would borrow a friend's Xbox to play it!

Just out of interest as a final point - what are the Rockstar & Capcom franchises that went multi-plat this generation? I assume you mean Grand Theft Auto for Rockstar (unless there's something I'm forgetting) which was a timed exclusive throughout the sixth generation for Sony - it's never been an actual exclusive. I'm at a loss for the Capcom franchise though. Is it Devil May Cry?



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In answer to your query for Rockstar it was the timed exclusive expansions for Grand Theft Auto 4, and for Capcom it was the Devil May Cry franchise. As for my presentation it was my intention to disrupt any revisionism that would take place. You have to understand that the same people that took these losses the hardest. Are the exact same people who like to claim they never cared in the first place, and they will also insist that nobody else cared either. I really don't want to waste hours of my time proving the self evident by link stacking. Sometimes a little overkill up front saves for a lot of mop up in the back.

Exclusives matter very little past a console's initial years. Microsoft understood this somewhere around 2008, Sony never got it.

Expect a storm of exlusives for the X720 during its initial 3 years then a transition to timed DLC after the slim relaunch.



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pokoko said:
I've never, ever thought of third party franchises as being exclusive, only individual games, and then only because of circumstance. Final Fantasy leaving Nintendo, for example, was because of circumstances, which means it can go the other way in the future if the situation is different. I've never had the slightest feelings of "betrayal" over anything like that. Likewise, I've never thought of Final Fantasy XIII going multi-platform as anything bothersome, it's just a business decision that makes sense. It doesn't hurt me in the slightest, so it's a non-issue.

As for franchises leaving Sony and going to Microsoft, I can't think of many important exclusives that Sony doesn't own that aren't already multi-platform. I would have said Valkyria Chronicles, perhaps, but it doesn't look like Sega is going to do anything with that, regardless. Unless you mean taking a multi-platform franchise and making it exclusive to Microsoft? In that case, I think you could open this thread up to Microsoft fans, as that's a question that could go both ways. Personally, if that were to happen with either, I think the disappointment and anger would be justified. I hate seeing multi-platform franchises become exclusives for no other reason that money and I would definitely be lessing willing to support a developer or publisher that does that kind of thing.

Actually, I think a better question could be something that has a shot at happening; how will Microsoft fans feel if Epic takes Gears of War multi-platform?


I doubt that will happen all the games so far have been published by Microsoft Studios.