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thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:

Yes, and that's the 360s strongest region. It is down 26% YOY in USA Alone according to VGChartz http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2012/USA/


The price cut was for the whole year? Ridiculous comparison when talking about the holiday price cut in the US.

the price cut was recent.

this week the 360 is down 12.7% YOY.

The price cut next near will probably not be for all year, either.  Unless MS just keeps the urrent price cuts in place.  And this '12's pricecut was for 3 months, 2 of which are the busiest shopping months of the year.  There was also $150 360 bundles during Black Friday and many stores offered the $199 SKUfor $179 afer Black Friday.  The 360 will still end ~25% down YOY.


Yeah, as I predicted. 

Wait until you see the drop the 360 and PS3 have next year.

i know, I know... Huge games... Ps3 could eve be flat.....yadda yadda yadda



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kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:

Yes, and that's the 360s strongest region. It is down 26% YOY in USA Alone according to VGChartz http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2012/USA/


The price cut was for the whole year? Ridiculous comparison when talking about the holiday price cut in the US.

the price cut was recent.

this week the 360 is down 12.7% YOY.

The price cut next near will probably not be for all year, either.  Unless MS just keeps the urrent price cuts in place.  And this '12's pricecut was for 3 months, 2 of which are the busiest shopping months of the year.  There was also $150 360 bundles during Black Friday and many stores offered the $199 SKUfor $179 afer Black Friday.  The 360 will still end ~25% down YOY.


Yeah, as I predicted. 

Wait until you see the drop the 360 and PS3 have next year.

i know, I know... Huge games... Ps3 could eve be flat.....yadda yadda yadda

It won't be flat, but most likely it will help the PS3 only be down ~10%-15%.  The 360, on the other hand, will have another ~20%-25% drop.



thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:

Yes, and that's the 360s strongest region. It is down 26% YOY in USA Alone according to VGChartz http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2012/USA/


The price cut was for the whole year? Ridiculous comparison when talking about the holiday price cut in the US.

the price cut was recent.

this week the 360 is down 12.7% YOY.

The price cut next near will probably not be for all year, either.  Unless MS just keeps the urrent price cuts in place.  And this '12's pricecut was for 3 months, 2 of which are the busiest shopping months of the year.  There was also $150 360 bundles during Black Friday and many stores offered the $199 SKUfor $179 afer Black Friday.  The 360 will still end ~25% down YOY.


Yeah, as I predicted. 

Wait until you see the drop the 360 and PS3 have next year.

i know, I know... Huge games... Ps3 could eve be flat.....yadda yadda yadda

It won't be flat, but most likely it will help the PS3 only be down ~10%-15%.  The 360, on the other hand, will have another ~20%-25% drop.

No chance whatsoever.



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Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Once again, you Nintendo haters need to really hide your true colors better.

3DS still beasting, as expected, and Wii U will pick up in sales. Man, the Vita should do much better than that. The gap between X360 and PS3 is great for Sony, but doubt they care, given the crisis they are in. Overall, worse than last year, but the fact that handheld gaming is still kicking is great news for the video game industry. Surprised the DS is still selling great, but there were plenty of sales for it and the 3DS at my local Target.


You really shouldn't make such statements when you really don't have anything to base them on. Wii U sales MIGHT pick up, they might not. 

Nintendo knows what they are doing. They won't just screw up for their next home console. Not even two months in, and everyone is making judgements. Just compare the Xbox360, PS3, and Wii U launch.

Nintendo aren't some omniscient power - they might have made a mistake.

Comparing the 360/Wii/PS3 launches are irrelevant as the market was vastly different back then, plus those consoles weren't competiting against the previous generation, whereas the Wii U is fighting the PS3/360 head on with the volume of identical ports it has - there has been no "PGR3" yet for it. 
Either way, you can't claim Nintendo sales will pick up as that is not a fact, just speculation. 

What is fact, is that Nintendo had this same problem with the 3DS. How did that turn out? Yes, it is pure speculation, but saying that the Wii U is suddenly flopping is just as judgemental, perhaps even more so.

No one is saying it is flopping; it just isn't doing that well compared to it's older and cheaper rivals. The 3ds is a handheld, so again that is a pointless comparison due to market differences. Until the Wii U shows something that dramatically seperates itself from the 360 and PS3, then it will be seen as a rival to those two consoles and therefore their sales will be compared. In that sense, the Wii U is not performing very well at all. 



kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:

The price cut next near will probably not be for all year, either.  Unless MS just keeps the urrent price cuts in place.  And this '12's pricecut was for 3 months, 2 of which are the busiest shopping months of the year.  There was also $150 360 bundles during Black Friday and many stores offered the $199 SKUfor $179 afer Black Friday.  The 360 will still end ~25% down YOY.


Yeah, as I predicted. 

Wait until you see the drop the 360 and PS3 have next year.

i know, I know... Huge games... Ps3 could eve be flat.....yadda yadda yadda

It won't be flat, but most likely it will help the PS3 only be down ~10%-15%.  The 360, on the other hand, will have another ~20%-25% drop.

No chance whatsoever.

We shall see.



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Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Once again, you Nintendo haters need to really hide your true colors better.

3DS still beasting, as expected, and Wii U will pick up in sales. Man, the Vita should do much better than that. The gap between X360 and PS3 is great for Sony, but doubt they care, given the crisis they are in. Overall, worse than last year, but the fact that handheld gaming is still kicking is great news for the video game industry. Surprised the DS is still selling great, but there were plenty of sales for it and the 3DS at my local Target.


You really shouldn't make such statements when you really don't have anything to base them on. Wii U sales MIGHT pick up, they might not. 

Nintendo knows what they are doing. They won't just screw up for their next home console. Not even two months in, and everyone is making judgements. Just compare the Xbox360, PS3, and Wii U launch.

Nintendo aren't some omniscient power - they might have made a mistake.

Comparing the 360/Wii/PS3 launches are irrelevant as the market was vastly different back then, plus those consoles weren't competiting against the previous generation, whereas the Wii U is fighting the PS3/360 head on with the volume of identical ports it has - there has been no "PGR3" yet for it. 
Either way, you can't claim Nintendo sales will pick up as that is not a fact, just speculation. 

What is fact, is that Nintendo had this same problem with the 3DS. How did that turn out? Yes, it is pure speculation, but saying that the Wii U is suddenly flopping is just as judgemental, perhaps even more so.

No one is saying it is flopping; it just isn't doing that well compared to it's older and cheaper rivals. The 3ds is a handheld, so again that is a pointless comparison due to market differences. Until the Wii U shows something that dramatically seperates itself from the 360 and PS3, then it will be seen as a rival to those two consoles and therefore their sales will be compared. In that sense, the Wii U is not performing very well at all. 

This is actually where I will agree with you. Early in its life, the Wii U will struggle with its identity. It needs "that" game to truly show its capabilities. Any of its 1st party franchises will do the trick.



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thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
VGKing said:

Yes, and that's the 360s strongest region. It is down 26% YOY in USA Alone according to VGChartz http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2012/USA/


The price cut was for the whole year? Ridiculous comparison when talking about the holiday price cut in the US.

the price cut was recent.

this week the 360 is down 12.7% YOY.

The price cut next near will probably not be for all year, either.  Unless MS just keeps the urrent price cuts in place.  And this '12's pricecut was for 3 months, 2 of which are the busiest shopping months of the year.  There was also $150 360 bundles during Black Friday and many stores offered the $199 SKUfor $179 afer Black Friday.  The 360 will still end ~25% down YOY.


Yeah, as I predicted. 

Wait until you see the drop the 360 and PS3 have next year.

i know, I know... Huge games... Ps3 could eve be flat.....yadda yadda yadda

It won't be flat, but most likely it will help the PS3 only be down ~10%-15%.  The 360, on the other hand, will have another ~20%-25% drop.

Can i borrow that Time Machine of yours?



Nsanity said:
thismeintiel said:

It won't be flat, but most likely it will help the PS3 only be down ~10%-15%.  The 360, on the other hand, will have another ~20%-25% drop.

Can i borrow that Time Machine of yours?

Didn't realize predictions required time machines.  I'll make sure to check if you have one the next time I see one of your predictions. 



Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Once again, you Nintendo haters need to really hide your true colors better.

3DS still beasting, as expected, and Wii U will pick up in sales. Man, the Vita should do much better than that. The gap between X360 and PS3 is great for Sony, but doubt they care, given the crisis they are in. Overall, worse than last year, but the fact that handheld gaming is still kicking is great news for the video game industry. Surprised the DS is still selling great, but there were plenty of sales for it and the 3DS at my local Target.


You really shouldn't make such statements when you really don't have anything to base them on. Wii U sales MIGHT pick up, they might not. 

Nintendo knows what they are doing. They won't just screw up for their next home console. Not even two months in, and everyone is making judgements. Just compare the Xbox360, PS3, and Wii U launch.

Nintendo aren't some omniscient power - they might have made a mistake.

Comparing the 360/Wii/PS3 launches are irrelevant as the market was vastly different back then, plus those consoles weren't competiting against the previous generation, whereas the Wii U is fighting the PS3/360 head on with the volume of identical ports it has - there has been no "PGR3" yet for it. 
Either way, you can't claim Nintendo sales will pick up as that is not a fact, just speculation. 

What is fact, is that Nintendo had this same problem with the 3DS. How did that turn out? Yes, it is pure speculation, but saying that the Wii U is suddenly flopping is just as judgemental, perhaps even more so.

No one is saying it is flopping; it just isn't doing that well compared to it's older and cheaper rivals. The 3ds is a handheld, so again that is a pointless comparison due to market differences. Until the Wii U shows something that dramatically seperates itself from the 360 and PS3, then it will be seen as a rival to those two consoles and therefore their sales will be compared. In that sense, the Wii U is not performing very well at all. 


Isn't the Wii U selling better than the PS3 and 360 did at launch so far? In that sense, it would be selling very well.



Roar_Of_War said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Mazty said:
Zelhawks37 said:
Once again, you Nintendo haters need to really hide your true colors better.

3DS still beasting, as expected, and Wii U will pick up in sales. Man, the Vita should do much better than that. The gap between X360 and PS3 is great for Sony, but doubt they care, given the crisis they are in. Overall, worse than last year, but the fact that handheld gaming is still kicking is great news for the video game industry. Surprised the DS is still selling great, but there were plenty of sales for it and the 3DS at my local Target.


You really shouldn't make such statements when you really don't have anything to base them on. Wii U sales MIGHT pick up, they might not. 

Nintendo knows what they are doing. They won't just screw up for their next home console. Not even two months in, and everyone is making judgements. Just compare the Xbox360, PS3, and Wii U launch.

Nintendo aren't some omniscient power - they might have made a mistake.

Comparing the 360/Wii/PS3 launches are irrelevant as the market was vastly different back then, plus those consoles weren't competiting against the previous generation, whereas the Wii U is fighting the PS3/360 head on with the volume of identical ports it has - there has been no "PGR3" yet for it. 
Either way, you can't claim Nintendo sales will pick up as that is not a fact, just speculation. 

What is fact, is that Nintendo had this same problem with the 3DS. How did that turn out? Yes, it is pure speculation, but saying that the Wii U is suddenly flopping is just as judgemental, perhaps even more so.

No one is saying it is flopping; it just isn't doing that well compared to it's older and cheaper rivals. The 3ds is a handheld, so again that is a pointless comparison due to market differences. Until the Wii U shows something that dramatically seperates itself from the 360 and PS3, then it will be seen as a rival to those two consoles and therefore their sales will be compared. In that sense, the Wii U is not performing very well at all. 


Isn't the Wii U selling better than the PS3 and 360 did at launch so far? In that sense, it would be selling very well.

Doesn't matter if it outperforming the launch of the other consoles. The reason is a)that was 6+ years ago (a lot has happened since then) & b) it is currently directly competing against the 360 & PS3 as of right now, ergo it needs to match current sales as it's seen as a contender to the PS3 & 360, not their superior. Until it can grab a technical footing above the PS3 and 360 (think PGR3 back in the day), then it will be compared directly to their sales rather then seen as the sales of an 8th gen console.