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Mind. Blown. Amazing topic and convincing theory, maybe we'll have more hints in Ascension?



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pitzy272 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong. This article says Kratos is Jesus or God now?

If so that would be wrong on so many levels considering Kratos is a complete asshole. God of War games are great but I never personally liked Kratos as a character.


Did anyone ever like Ares as a character? No. He was the god of war and his reason for being was destruction and feeding off of human turmoil. Kratos has more sides to him that Ares. Ares will kill whoever he pleases, and there have been moments where Kratos outside of blind rage held back his sword against another (see Ghost of Sparta).


Yes but the God of War and God/Jesus are two completely different things.  And is God/Jesus even in mythology?


To some Jesus is a myth. To over two billion people on the planet (and growing) he is god. Some equate the two but really are nothing alike. The story of Jesus is more like the story of Tammuz or Horus

I'm not gonna get into a religion discussion, especially bc aldro didnt mean for the claim to be taken as anything other than a theory that interested him. I just have to comment on ur myth statement, tho...

If someone believes Jesus is a myth, it's a case of misinformation. There is no debate whether Jesus existed; it's proven fact. The only debate is whether he is who he said he was.

Also...the Bible has proven as an important, accurate historical document for many events in ancient history (wars, etc.). I forget what u said exactly that led me to say that, but something did lol. Not claiming 100% accuracy, just making a note...

That's all I want to say on religion, at least in this thread. 

Saying that the bible is historically accurate is misinformation, so stop spreading it. If you believe in it, do what your supposed to do and believe in it. It is a document that requires faith....which basically means to belief without proof. If you dont have faith its useless. When something is fact, faith isnt involved because it isn't based on emotion but instead replaced by rational nature. What does that mean? It means show me proof or else stop making statements  as if they are fact to a person that demands facts. Theres nothing rational about the bible, so learn the difference. If i was to take what you're saying as fact I would have to do the same for Homers the Odyssey and the Illiad were fact as well. What the heck! Achillies existed too then! Troy exists in real life too, so I am guessing that story is accurate, correct? 



So what else do you think the Three Wise Men heading to an unknown destiny can be about? Like.. Maybe Jesus and Kratos were pals? XD



The first part of the theory is kind of interesting. I don't know if I buy the second part....with Kratos being God or Jesus....seems like a stretch.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
pitzy272 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
JayWood2010 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong. This article says Kratos is Jesus or God now?

If so that would be wrong on so many levels considering Kratos is a complete asshole. God of War games are great but I never personally liked Kratos as a character.


Did anyone ever like Ares as a character? No. He was the god of war and his reason for being was destruction and feeding off of human turmoil. Kratos has more sides to him that Ares. Ares will kill whoever he pleases, and there have been moments where Kratos outside of blind rage held back his sword against another (see Ghost of Sparta).


Yes but the God of War and God/Jesus are two completely different things.  And is God/Jesus even in mythology?


To some Jesus is a myth. To over two billion people on the planet (and growing) he is god. Some equate the two but really are nothing alike. The story of Jesus is more like the story of Tammuz or Horus

I'm not gonna get into a religion discussion, especially bc aldro didnt mean for the claim to be taken as anything other than a theory that interested him. I just have to comment on ur myth statement, tho...

If someone believes Jesus is a myth, it's a case of misinformation. There is no debate whether Jesus existed; it's proven fact. The only debate is whether he is who he said he was.

Also...the Bible has proven as an important, accurate historical document for many events in ancient history (wars, etc.). I forget what u said exactly that led me to say that, but something did lol. Not claiming 100% accuracy, just making a note...

That's all I want to say on religion, at least in this thread. 

Saying that the bible is historically accurate is misinformation, so stop spreading it. If you believe in it, do what your supposed to do and believe in it. It is a document that requires faith....which basically means to belief without proof. If you dont have faith its useless. When something is fact, faith isnt involved because it isn't based on emotion but instead replaced by rational nature. What does that mean? It means show me proof or else stop making statements  as if they are fact to a person that demands facts. Theres nothing rational about the bible, so learn the difference. If i was to take what you're saying as fact I would have to do the same for Homers the Odyssey and the Illiad were fact as well. What the heck! Achillies existed too then! Troy exists in real life too, so I am guessing that story is accurate, correct? 

Goodness I didn't want to get into this.

There's no reason to get so upset. You're misreading what I said. By no means am I claiming everything in the Bible is historically accurate; however, for multiple events described in the Bible - wars and other things - the Bible has served as a reliable/accurate depiction of the events.

Anyways, I don't want to derail the thread any further. If you want to say anything else to me, send me a message. I enjoy discussions like this.



David Jaffe's initial idea for God of War 3 ending did involve the 3 wise men and the birth of Christianity as a religion.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/40005/t1564432-if-david-jaffe-had-made-god-of-war-iii-alternate-ending/

quote from him:
"Essentially, Jaffe suggested that the battle with Zeus would be set at the beginning of the game. Kratos would kill Zeus, creating a vortex that would suck all mythologies - Greek, Egyptian, Norse etc. - into one world. While in this world, Kratos would ultimately stop the people from believing in these gods, thereby ushering in the new age of religions, beginning with Christianity. The ending of the game would see you playing as the Three Wise Men. The origin of the Sphinx would also be explained as a monster that Kratos froze with Medusa's Head, whilst Kratos ultimate fate would be to sacrifice himself to live with his family in Hades."



Mikeanheath said:
David Jaffe's initial idea for God of War 3 ending did involve the 3 wise men and the birth of Christianity as a religion.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/40005/t1564432-if-david-jaffe-had-made-god-of-war-iii-alternate-ending/

quote from him:
"Essentially, Jaffe suggested that the battle with Zeus would be set at the beginning of the game. Kratos would kill Zeus, creating a vortex that would suck all mythologies - Greek, Egyptian, Norse etc. - into one world. While in this world, Kratos would ultimately stop the people from believing in these gods, thereby ushering in the new age of religions, beginning with Christianity. The ending of the game would see you playing as the Three Wise Men. The origin of the Sphinx would also be explained as a monster that Kratos froze with Medusa's Head, whilst Kratos ultimate fate would be to sacrifice himself to live with his family in Hades."


For this part:

"Kratos would ultimately stop the people from believing in these gods, thereby ushering in the new age of religions, beginning with Christianity. "

Essientally thats what couldve happend. Mankind looking and seeing how the world stands in ruin would pretty much eliminate their belief in the gods and eventually be given hope for a better world by Kratos' sacrifice. As for the rest, yeah its open for interpretation really.



I don't know about you guys but I really dislike Kratos as a character. I thought Gow3 was fun and all but I couldn't get behind the main character at all, too much of an asshole in my opinion.



Lyrikalstylez said:
I don't know about you guys but I really dislike Kratos as a character. I thought Gow3 was fun and all but I couldn't get behind the main character at all, too much of an asshole in my opinion.

Have you played all other GoWs including the PSP ones? A rather tragic character whose story only keeps getting more tragic to make up for the insanity that was GoW3 xD. Infact im sure Ascension will show even more of what drove him insane.

 

Oh and he was not only an ass hole due to what happend to his family, when he opend the box in God of War 1, he released the evil powers to the world, one of them being "hate/vengeance".