Well, never had much interest in this game. Now, I have none. Uncharted is great because you can't just hold forward and get through the game. If they were going to make TR more like UC, I would say they should only take the jumping mechanics, as they are more forgiving then the original TRs. However, to actually strip out the large levels to explore, swimming levels (UC even has these), and to hold your hand for the whole experience, is just crap. Glad I have TLoU, GoW, Beyond, and Bioshock to occupy me for 2013.

i love the sound of this. she on her own, going through hell trying to survive on her own.

How is that irrelevant? You just attempted to compare it to Uncharted based on what I initially said, then when I show you that it doesn't even allow for the same exploration and gameplay options as Uncharted those features become irrelevant?

I take it you haven't played Uncharted?

Well, you do make some good points, but...I can say that, for example, Fallout 3 is a decent game on its own, though it can hardly be called true Fallout game -still, it managed to at least somewhat keep original's feel, although it was major shift in how game looks and plays. This reboot however seems like it has almost absolutely nothing to do with neither original, nor CD's first reboot of franchise. In my opinion, there were ways to keep TR what it always was, and bring it back to its former glory without stripping it of almost everything that defined it. But, I guess at the end, in this day and age, copying another franchise, and making Lara "warm and empathic", instead of badass she's always been, is probably much safer and easier way to do it (and just to make it clear here, I don't care much for Uncharted either, to be honest).

I didnt say exploration is irrelevant, but good exploration doesnt require swimming. The ability to Swim does not make a game more fun than others. Its usually a clumbersome gameplay piece aswell.

For example you can swim in the gof of war games, and its really well done considering, but its still the least enjoying part of the gameplay.

Bravo, bravo. i thought i was the only one who was think TRLegends was pretty much a precursor for Uncharted. That game is the most similar to the U series, nothing wrong with that. Played TRLegend and enjoyed the hell out of it and Anniversary and im enjoying Underworld although not as much as those other two I mentioned.

I think the Sales for the series peaked a LONG time ago. TR2 did the best and it was downhill from there. I blame greed, the world didnt need FIVE back to back TR games, thats not even counting PC rereleases and handheld spinoffs. And the PS2 debut sucking so bad didn help. Maybe Ill be wrong about this new one, but i dont see it putting up the numbers those first 3 PS1 games did.

Pre ordered the Tomb Raider loot box which is out my birthday week. So much negativity toward this game here. Uncharted owes a debt to Tomb Raider which crystal dynamics/Square are now cashing in.

I actually think the game looks pretty good... The story that they're trying to create sounds interesting, and I'm looking forward to playing it. I can understand why people would be upset by a reboot, especially one that seems so different from previous games in the franchise, but if the game is good, I can't say that I personally mind. As for the simple controls... well, I like the Assassin's Creed games, so that doesn't bother me either.

(Disclaimer; I only ever played the first Tomb Raider game up until a few days ago when I bought the bundle on Steam with all of the games. Been playing through Legend, and it's pretty fun.)

legend has some good tombs/puzzles in it no about about it,the reboot anniversary is the best for me,aslong as they have the little ping with a secret,that will do me :)