Sorry but those bundles are awful. You can get the games for 20€ or less each so you are left with a 200€ PS3 12GB super slim which is the MSRP.

i expect all the 360 owners are in here becsuse they're interested in buying. There are more 360 owners here than ps3 fanboys (just me) :D

Then we are talking about two entirely different things.  I'm talking about bundles in general and the myth that the reason Nintendo and MSFT games sell well.  All it is is a big excuse.  It could be that they are good games that they sell well O.O  Oh my I would have never thought such a thing!  If sony fans are going to complain about bundles then you might as well say the games i've mentioned above are not worthy of their sells either.

it's from a german site and probably translated with google translator or something.  in german it's "drake's schicksal"

but that is not really a steal, you can buy the same seperately for less (we don't really know how much retail will take for the bundles yet, maybe it will be a steal with reduction)

Uncharted 4 Drake's Shicksal confirmed XP

Good games to bundle the console with. I expect Uncharted series would continue next gen because Sony is trying to give to as many hands as possible.

And everyone should play Heavy Rain. I see lots of buzz for The Walking Dead as how emotional it is. These people should play Heavy Rain as it would very emotional experience for them too.

I'm prety sure haevy rain is here because of beyond two souls.

probably 1 since there is no essential edition of the second one at retail.

so i just read that the essential editions have a msrp of 19.99 which means the bundles have exactly 0€ advantage to the same msrp price if you buy everything seperately. it does cost even more then because 199.99+3x19.99 is less than 259.99€ haha

I think you're right about this.

wow Congratz JayWood2010! You have completely derailed the thread. I mean seriously what has anything you had to say had anything to do with the OP or what anyone else said in this thread?

And im not sure where you get that generalisation from but im pretty sure that argument is only thrown at Forza (Forza 3 to be more specific). It is Microsofts most bundled game by far. I've actually never seen a sony fanboy use the argument you are putting forward for all high selling 360 games. If anyone says Gears has sold mostly because of bundles then they are idiots, clearly. Same applies to Halo titles. But Forza and to a much lesser extent Fable, these games can definitely account  a large amount of sales to bundles.

Personally i don't know of a single game that i can point out where Sony has bundled it as much as Forza 3 in an official long lasting bundle. Sony chops and changes its official bundles almost yearly. Using games such as U1, U2, U3, LBP1, LBP 2, Infamous 1, Infamous 2, Motorstorm games, Heavy Rain, God of War 3. But MS has almost always had a Forza bundle. This is why the argument is used against Forza sales and its understandable, however all MS and Nintendo high selling games? Wtf. Seriously you are making up your theories about "Sony Fans".

OT: Those bundles are nothing special! :/