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buying a system at launch

yes i always a console at launch 26 13.61%
 
no i never buy a console at launch 72 37.70%
 
depends on the price and games 93 48.69%
 
Total:191
TheLastStarFighter on 16 December 2012

Buying on launch is probably not a great idea, but it is fun. The WiiU is the first system I got at launch since SNES, and I have to say it is fun to be part of the hype. I was able to pick it up because I had some extra cash and the time is right with it being so long since the last system launches. Nintendo is usually a safe bet, too, since their systems are known to be far more dependable and usually priced resonably. In general it's probably better to wait since a lot of problems happen (RROD), prices go down and games are limited. But it is hard to put a price on the experience of trying something when it is brand new.



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Cobretti2 on 16 December 2012
Scisca said:
Cobretti2 said:

All depends which console you are buying:

Micrososft = no as RROD on launch models.
Sony = maybe as can have issues but usually because of being dead on arrival and not dying a week or two later.
Nintendo = yes as you will be very unlucky for nintendo hardware to fail early.

However I expect microsoft and sony to mature eventually and be up to standard day one.

By all rights PS4 being Sony's 4th console should be almost perfectly made at launch.

Next xbox could go either way, but I think Micrososft have learnt from their mistakes in the past.

Sony to mature? Dude, don't draw a rule about company just by how it's latest product is doing. PS3 and Vita had smaller or bigger problems at launch, but I can't remember PS, PS2 or PSP to have such problems. They struggle, cause Sony does it's uttmost to give us cutting edge consoles. Plus, this is Sony and they will fight through the bad weather! They did it with PS3, they will with Vita. What is more, we have to face the facts that when it comes to Sony, the launch versions of consoles turn out to be the best ones. I have a feeling that should they redesign the Vita, it will be made cheaper (just like the PS3 Super Slim), so that it can compete with the price of 3DS, and hence a new Vita will be worse then the current one (moreso since I can't imagine them improving this console!). Hence, guys - go get a Vita while it's so bad @ss! ;)

Last 4 consoles (Wii, Wii U, DS, 3DS) from Nintendo are safe bets, because they offer us previous generation hardware. That's why this stuff doesn't break down, is relatively cheap and get's some games early on. Hmm... Come to think about it, Nintendo destroyed the console market by doing this. We won't be getting cutting edge consoles anymore, since cheap previous gen N consoles sell good on launch, while the cutting edge stuff is more expensive, harder to write games to and loses in the beginning, which threatens the existence of a console. The only solution would be to sell powerful consoles on a contract (PS+/Live), but I doubt Sony and MS want to take that risk in current economy.

I only wrote what I have personally experienced with eack hardware for launch console. Doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone.



 

 

Cobretti2 on 16 December 2012
fordy said:
Before this new gen, I'd say I wasn't going to get a new console at release anymore. I got drawn in when I saw the WiiU premium for AU$379 at BigW (RRP AU$429) and decided to buy it. Wasn't a bad idea either, as I checked again yesterday and found that it had gone back up to it's RRP price since, so I got an absolute bargain.

Given the AU$ close to US$ and that our tax is included in the price, does anyone know what extra you have to pay in tax in the US?


Americas tax system is complicated as they got federal taxes and state taxes, where each state has it's own rates.

Not sure where gaming fits into this equation but from what I seen people post on here its somewhere ebtween 6%-10% dpeedning where you are.

This is why I think our Aussie tax system is easier as it is factored in already in the price.



 

 

bonkers555 on 16 December 2012
d21lewis said:
Somebody's gotta keep the system alive while everybody else waits for the big games or the price launch. That somebody is me.


Me and you both my friend.



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TheShape31 on 16 December 2012

In terms of good and bad, buying a new console is supporting the worst of sweatshops in Foxconn. I haven't purchased new hardware in 6 years, and will not be for the indefinite future. Plus used stuff is cheaper.

For everyone else, there's no real good or bad when it comes to price or software selection at launch. That all comes down to preference, budget, and patience. Do what makes you happy.



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slowmo on 16 December 2012

I will probably buy the next Xbox at launch depending on price of course...



aimancooper on 16 December 2012

No. First I want to get in the reviews and shit



SvennoJ on 16 December 2012
TheShape31 said:
In terms of good and bad, buying a new console is supporting the worst of sweatshops in Foxconn. I haven't purchased new hardware in 6 years, and will not be for the indefinite future. Plus used stuff is cheaper.

For everyone else, there's no real good or bad when it comes to price or software selection at launch. That all comes down to preference, budget, and patience. Do what makes you happy.

That's pretty hypocritical if you mean you rather buy the sweatshop consoles used. You're still supporting sweatshops, and by buying used you're denying the workers their already low pay and in a way support even lower wages.



TheShape31 on 16 December 2012
SvennoJ said:
TheShape31 said:
In terms of good and bad, buying a new console is supporting the worst of sweatshops in Foxconn. I haven't purchased new hardware in 6 years, and will not be for the indefinite future. Plus used stuff is cheaper.

For everyone else, there's no real good or bad when it comes to price or software selection at launch. That all comes down to preference, budget, and patience. Do what makes you happy.

That's pretty hypocritical if you mean you rather buy the sweatshop consoles used. You're still supporting sweatshops, and by buying used you're denying the workers their already low pay and in a way support even lower wages.


Incorrect.  Purchasing new increases demand for sweatshops and beyond poor working conditions.  People will work underage, and shifts lasting days because there is no real regulation taking place.  It's happened before and it will continue to happen.

The workers don't make money off of what is being sold, so no money gets taken out of their pockets.  If companies stopped using sweatshops, then better avenues would open up for work in other places.  Demand goes down, alternatives appear.

Explain to me how purchasing an old console from someone second-hand creates demand.  Take your time.

There is nothing hypocritical coming from me, only respect and compassion.



SvennoJ on 16 December 2012
TheShape31 said:
SvennoJ said:
TheShape31 said:
In terms of good and bad, buying a new console is supporting the worst of sweatshops in Foxconn. I haven't purchased new hardware in 6 years, and will not be for the indefinite future. Plus used stuff is cheaper.

For everyone else, there's no real good or bad when it comes to price or software selection at launch. That all comes down to preference, budget, and patience. Do what makes you happy.

That's pretty hypocritical if you mean you rather buy the sweatshop consoles used. You're still supporting sweatshops, and by buying used you're denying the workers their already low pay and in a way support even lower wages.


Incorrect.  Purchasing new increases demand for sweatshops and beyond poor working conditions.  People will work underage, and shifts lasting days because there is no real regulation taking place.  It's happened before and it will continue to happen.

The workers don't make money off of what is being sold, so no money gets taken out of their pockets.  If companies stopped using sweatshops, then better avenues would open up for work in other places.  Demand goes down, alternatives appear.

Explain to me how purchasing an old console from someone second-hand creates demand.  Take your time.

There is nothing hypocritical coming from me, only respect and compassion.

It doesn't create demand, which is a signal to companies that prices for new products are still to high. Thus they will search for cheaper alternatives as they have always done to make the gap between new and used prices or repairs smaller.

I'm all for alternatives to sweatshop. I don't mind paying a bit more for stuff made under fair conditions. However in our capitalist world that option isn't even there for mass produced goods. Buying used is not going to change anything. And actually yes, buying used does create demand in a sense. As the person you buy it from is more willing to buy new knowing he can sell it later.

I do wonder though, how much does the price go up when build in a non sweatshop environment.