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Player1x3 said:


Yet it has platforms !

Ok, but I don't see those levels enough to make consider the game a platformer.

Maybe that's why mario got the fame.



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outlawauron said:
Square getting sued for publishing Dragon Quest since you use the touchscreen to control all of your character's movements?

So lame.


companies are following apples lead. when they are allowed to patent such frivilous things its a real problem for progress.



I hope SEGA die out.










.....right after releasing Yakuza 5 in EU.



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VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:


Yet it has platforms !

Ok, but I don't see those levels enough to make consider the game a platformer.

Maybe that's why mario got the fame.


It is considered a first platformer game ever made by everyone. And Pitfal! got the fame before Mario did.



Player1x3 said:


It is considered a first platformer game ever made by everyone. And Pitfal! got the fame before Mario did.


By everyone who? Since you probably got your info from Wiki:

Single screen movement

Platform games appeared at the beginning of the 1980s. Because of the technical limitations of the day, early examples were confined to a static playing field, generally viewed in profile. Space Panic, a 1980 arcade release by Universal, is sometimes credited as the first platform game,[6] though the distinction is contentious, while the player had the ability to fall, there was no ability to jump, swing, or bounce, and as such, does not satisfy most modern definitions of the genre. However, it was clearly an influence on the genre, with gameplay centered on climbing ladders between different floors, a common element in many early platform games. Another precursor to the genre released that same year was Nichibutsu's Crazy Climber, which revolved around the concept of climbing buildings.[7][8]

Donkey Kong, an arcade game created by Nintendo, released in July 1981, was the first game that allowed players to jump over obstacles and across gaps, making it the first true platformer.[9][10]Donkey Kong had a limited amount of platforming in its first two screens, but its other two accessible screens have a more pronounced platform jumping component. This game also introduced Mario, an icon of the genre. Donkey Kong was ported to many consoles and computers at the time, and the title helped to cement Nintendo's position as an important name internationally in the video game industry.

You just searched first platformer on google and got this.

You're right, pitfall harry got the fame before Mario... but not before "Jumpman"



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VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:


It is considered a first platformer game ever made by everyone. And Pitfal! got the fame before Mario did.


By everyone who? Since you probably got your info from Wiki:

Single screen movement

Platform games appeared at the beginning of the 1980s. Because of the technical limitations of the day, early examples were confined to a static playing field, generally viewed in profile. Space Panic, a 1980 arcade release by Universal, is sometimes credited as the first platform game,[6] though the distinction is contentious, while the player had the ability to fall, there was no ability to jump, swing, or bounce, and as such, does not satisfy most modern definitions of the genre. However, it was clearly an influence on the genre, with gameplay centered on climbing ladders between different floors, a common element in many early platform games. Another precursor to the genre released that same year was Nichibutsu's Crazy Climber, which revolved around the concept of climbing buildings.[7][8]

Donkey Kong, an arcade game created by Nintendo, released in July 1981, was the first game that allowed players to jump over obstacles and across gaps, making it the first true platformer.[9][10]Donkey Kong had a limited amount of platforming in its first two screens, but its other two accessible screens have a more pronounced platform jumping component. This game also introduced Mario, an icon of the genre. Donkey Kong was ported to many consoles and computers at the time, and the title helped to cement Nintendo's position as an important name internationally in the video game industry.

You just searched first platformer on google and got this.

You're right, pitfall harry got the fame before Mario... but not before "Jumpman"

Dude, let it go. Nintendo didnt invent platforming genre and sure as hell didnt invent platforms in games, stop with cherry picking. If anything, Universal should sue Nintendo, not the other way around



Player1x3 said:

Dude, let it go. Nintendo didnt invent platforming genre and sure as hell didnt invent platforms in games, stop with cherry picking. If anything, Universal should sue Nintendo, not the other way around

Dude, if "it's considered the first platformer by everyone", then everyone must consider it the first platformer, which is not the case.

In fact, probably the minority does, since it's such a obscure game. It's not about the visuals, it's about gameplay.

Nobody should sue anybody, that's not the point.

I just think: how can this be a platformer? If you think so, ok, but don't imply it's the universal truth.



VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:

Dude, let it go. Nintendo didnt invent platforming genre and sure as hell didnt invent platforms in games, stop with cherry picking. If anything, Universal should sue Nintendo, not the other way around

Dude, if "it's considered the first platformer by everyone", then everyone must consider it the first platformer, which is not the case.

In fact, probably the minority does, since it's such a obscure game. It's not about the visuals, it's about gameplay.

Nobody should sue anybody, that's not the point.

I just think: how can this be a platformer? If you think so, ok, but don't imply it's the universal truth.

 

It is considered a first platformer by everyone. Just because it doesnt have elements from 'more modern' platformers, doesnt mean its not a platformer. Thats like saying Doom and Wolfenstein arent true FPSs because you cant regenerate health and aim down the sights



Player1x3 said:

It is considered a first platformer by everyone. Just because it doesnt have elements from 'more modern' platformers, doesnt mean its not a platformer. Thats like saying Doom and Wolfenstein arent true FPSs because you cant regenerate health and aim down the sights

That's why on its page it says:

Space Panic is a 1980 arcade game designed by Universal, which Chris Crawford calls the first ever platform game,[1] as it pre-dates Nintendo's Donkey Kong (from 1981) which is often cited as the original platform game.

I mean, if everyone calls it, then Chris Crawford (who) shouldn't have wasted his time.


man, use your beliefs from before searching "first platformer" on google and findind this to prove a point against the other post - you probably really wanted it to have some kind of jumping mechanic and real platformers gameplay right? Burger time is a platfomer to you?

your example would be true if wolfenstein did not have a "shooting device viewed from a first person view". Just like that text I used says: sometimes it's considered the first platformer, but the first true platformer is DK.



Player1x3 said:
VicViper said:
Player1x3 said:

Dude, let it go. Nintendo didnt invent platforming genre and sure as hell didnt invent platforms in games, stop with cherry picking. If anything, Universal should sue Nintendo, not the other way around

Dude, if "it's considered the first platformer by everyone", then everyone must consider it the first platformer, which is not the case.

In fact, probably the minority does, since it's such a obscure game. It's not about the visuals, it's about gameplay.

Nobody should sue anybody, that's not the point.

I just think: how can this be a platformer? If you think so, ok, but don't imply it's the universal truth.

 

It is considered a first platformer by everyone. Just because it doesnt have elements from 'more modern' platformers, doesnt mean its not a platformer. Thats like saying Doom and Wolfenstein arent true FPSs because you cant regenerate health and aim down the sights

No, its just that Space Panic doesn't have the gameplay elements that define the platform genre:

A platform game (or platformer) is a video game characterized by requiring the player to jump to and from suspended platforms or over obstacles (jumping puzzles).

Doom and Wolfenstein have the gameplay elements that define the FPS genre:

First-person shooter (FPS) is a video game genre centered on gun and projectile weapon-based combat through a first-person perspective.

 

Chris Crawford can say whatever he wants about his game.