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German Law to Blame For 18+ Rated Wii U Content Block In Europe

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Everyone is always quick to blame Germany for their current problems. We have a joke here that goes something like this:

Question: How many Germans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: Just one... but in Germany's days of glory, we could have 1000 people screw in a lightbulb at just the snap of our fingers.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

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hunter_alien said:
Maybe they should move their HQ?

No matter how you put this, its still a fuckup from Nintendos part, and yet another reason why they will always remain behind their competitors, when it comes down to online services.


This is ridiculous. Move headquarters? I don't think it's as simple as that. No company likes to lose money, not 0.00001% of them, this is not intentional from Nintendo's part.

It's the same as saying "The yen is strong, hurting Sony... maybe if they just move HQ away from Japan... that'll solve this. Why not?"



wfz said:
Viper1 said:


I think you may have mised something.

Nintendo of Europe is bound by German law because it is headquartered there so all its operations in an online capacity are restricted to German law.

Other companies are not HQ'd there so the German law only applies to their sales in Germany.


Yeah, I'm still a bit confused. So...

1) Company A: Based in Germany, has to follow German laws for every country.

2) Company B: Based in UK, only has to follow German laws in Germany.

 

I don't understand that. Why do they have to follow German laws for distribution outside Germany? In the first scenario, it seems like the only law that matters is Germany's, since it's upheld then across all of EU. In the second example, only German laws are enforced in Germany, which makes sense.

They have to abide by the laws of all countries but the coutnry you operate from takes all priority.    So while a customer in the UK may buy a game online, they are still buying it from a German store.   That law applies to the store, not the customer.

With the reverse (PSN, for example), a German citizen would be bound by his local laws while the PSN store is bound by the laws of the UK.

S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nintendo will never step over the line, only third parties will. Germany only needs to worry about Sony and Microsoft if that is their problem.

Ninja Gaiden 3 and Bayonetta 2 might want a word with you.

Sommernacht said:

What sucks here is the application by Nintendo which I am sure could have been handled differently.

Differently how?

hunter_alien said:
Maybe they should move their HQ?

No matter how you put this, its still a fuckup from Nintendos part, and yet another reason why they will always remain behind their competitors, when it comes down to online services.

Move their HQ?  Just pick up several hundred Germans and repost them where?   And at what cost?  You make it sound like it's a simple thing to do.

And how is it a fuck up on their part?  They didn't write or enact the law.   If a major distributor wanted to sell alcohol in Saudi Arabia but the law won't let them, is that somehow the distributor's fuck up?

 

 





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Well that's a stupid law. Luckily though, not many games will be affected by it.



End of 2016 hardware sales:

Wii U: 15 million. PS4: 54 million. One: 30 million. 3DS: 64.8 million. PSVita: 15.2 million.

I don't really understand the people defending Nintendo here. Sure, why they're doing this is completely understandable, but that's about it. From consumer-perspective, this is just unacceptable and they should do whatever they can to resolve the situation. From my point of view, the simple fact is that everyone else can offer better service than Nintendo in this regard, and I don't care why it is so.

Also, German laws suck.



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Zkuq said:
I don't really understand the people defending Nintendo here. Sure, why they're doing this is completely understandable, but that's about it. From consumer-perspective, this is just unacceptable and they should do whatever they can to resolve the situation. From my point of view, the simple fact is that everyone else can offer better service than Nintendo in this regard, and I don't care why it is so.

Also, German laws suck.

Nobody is defending Nintendo adherence to the law (well, one guy did it seems).  But Nintendo can't be held at fault for the law being in place to begin with either.

Should they work to find a means to address the problem?  Of course.  And why should anyone think they aren't?



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hunter_alien said:
Maybe they should move their HQ?

No matter how you put this, its still a fuckup from Nintendos part, and yet another reason why they will always remain behind their competitors, when it comes down to online services.

Move their HQ?  Just pick up several hundred Germans and repost them where?   And at what cost?  You make it sound like it's a simple thing to do.

And how is it a fuck up on their part?  They didn't write or enact the law.   If a major distributor wanted to sell alcohol in Saudi Arabia but the law won't let them, is that somehow the distributor's fuck up?

 

 



Terrible analogy. In that case they wont open shop in Saudi Arabia. But Nintendo operates in the EU, yet they dont manage to offer the same quality (in online services) as their competitor. They compromise, so the alcohol firm is selling light bevregaes in Saudi Arabia.

It doesnt really matter, the fact is that they could only gain in the longrun, if they changed their HQ, yet they cripple the WiiUs online capabilities, at a time, when both XBL and PSN are gathering steam, and pretty much destroying them.

No matter what the argue is against it, the fact remains, Nintendo is doing a terrible job at catching up in this department, and the gap is only widening



hunter_alien said:

Terrible analogy. In that case they wont open shop in Saudi Arabia. But Nintendo operates in the EU, yet they dont manage to offer the same quality (in online services) as their competitor. They compromise, so the alcohol firm is selling light bevregaes in Saudi Arabia.

It doesnt really matter, the fact is that they could only gain in the longrun, if they changed their HQ, yet they cripple the WiiUs online capabilities, at a time, when both XBL and PSN are gathering steam, and pretty much destroying them.

No matter what the argue is against it, the fact remains, Nintendo is doing a terrible job at catching up in this department, and the gap is only widening


  Gotcha.   It's Nintendo's fault for establishing their HQ in a country that would later to pass a law that would cripple their future online shop.  You know, back in 1990 before anyone really knew what an online store was?



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Viper1 said:
hunter_alien said:

Terrible analogy. In that case they wont open shop in Saudi Arabia. But Nintendo operates in the EU, yet they dont manage to offer the same quality (in online services) as their competitor. They compromise, so the alcohol firm is selling light bevregaes in Saudi Arabia.

It doesnt really matter, the fact is that they could only gain in the longrun, if they changed their HQ, yet they cripple the WiiUs online capabilities, at a time, when both XBL and PSN are gathering steam, and pretty much destroying them.

No matter what the argue is against it, the fact remains, Nintendo is doing a terrible job at catching up in this department, and the gap is only widening


  Gotcha.   It's Nintendo's fault for establishing their HQ in a country that would later to pass a law that would cripple their future online shop.  You know, back in 1990 before anyone really knew what an online store was?

ehm... they could have seen this coming for years? That's like turning a blind eye, good business strategy.



weaveworld said:

ehm... they could have seen this coming for years? That's like turning a blind eye, good business strategy.

Again, why don't Sony pack up and move away from japan?

I mean, they could have seen the yen getting strong for years.