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kitler53 said:
Chrizum said:
SnakeDrake said:
lol @ the people who predicted the Will U version will out sale the ps3/xbox version instantly

There was literaly no one who predicted that, stop posting such stupidness as it hurts my eyes.

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maxnyc said:

Nintendo knows that the core gamers who play Call of Duty will just flock to the system anyway, when they see the gamepad controlling drone strikes and missile launches, expanded map, off-screen HUD, multiplayer stats right on the controller. There's no question that those core gamers who love Call of Duty will RUN, not walk, they will RUN to the nearest place to get wii U on launch day. Nintendo doesn't need to bother telling them until right before the game comes out, then it's a done deal for those types of gamers. E3 is a big event where the news leaks to mainstream crap like CNN, so Nintendo focuses on more family-oriented stuff, and purposefully they leave out some important "core" titles.

i wouldn't say no one..  this is my personal favorite of the CoD wii U will be huge posts.  

You do realize what you quoted has nothing to do with what he said right.

Nothing in that post suggested it would outsellf PS3/360.  Just that they expected Wii U to not be hurt by it being on 360/PS3.

 

Anyone acually want to find a somewhat comparable situation with another console so it can be honestly evaluated?



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Software ranking:

1. New Super Mario Bros. Wii U (243k)
2. ZombiU
3. Scribblenauts Unlimited
4. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (21k)
5. Just Dance 4
6. Nintendo Land (excluding Deluxe set)
7. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
8. Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition
9. Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
10. Skylanders: Giants
11. Assassin's Creed III
12. Sing Party
13. Madden NFL 13
14. ESPN Sports Connection
15. Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge

So we know all games below Black Ops II sold less than 21k and ZomiU and Scribblenauts are anywhere between 21k and 243k.



Ah here is a couple. Call of Duty 2 was a launch game for the 360.

We don't have week one sales.

2 Week sales though were 225,874 in the US. Based on week 3 (and PS3 game sales) i'd guess that meant a launch of around 80-100K. (Why so low, if you look at launch games, they actually got more sales their second week then their first, see the other two games mentioned) So it was about 3 times that on 360 on a console more geared to shooters, but which less consoles around 305K

PS3's shooter was Resistance... and really it's biggest launch game. Wow. Anyway, It sold about 36K first week.on a 139,000 install base. So about a 26% attach rate there.

Another near launch game was Madden 07. Which is similar in that it already had a hardcore following on the 360. Meaning like Black Ops there was a big chance that early converters might not pick it up.

Madden 07 sold ~15K first week. On that 139K install base. Making it around a ~10% install base.

You throw in all the various pros and cons and such, and hopefully that puts things in more perspective.



Chrizum said:
SnakeDrake said:
lol @ the people who predicted the Will U version will out sale the ps3/xbox version instantly

There was literaly no one who predicted that, stop posting such stupidness as it hurts my eyes.


Oh please there were a couple who predicted that a few months ago. 



 

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megaman79 said:
Op, your thread is flame bait in the Nintendo Forum.

Why? Is reporting sales on a sales forum flamebait now? Cry me a river.



Stolen from the NPD thread:

Wii U analysis

Hardware breakdown:

75% black (Deluxe set)
25% white (Basic set)

Software ranking:

1. New Super Mario Bros. Wii U (243k)
2. ZombiU
3. Scribblenauts Unlimited
4. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (~21k)
5. Just Dance 4
6. Nintendo Land (excluding Deluxe set)
7. Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
8. Batman: Arkham City - Armored Edition
9. Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
10. Skylanders: Giants
11. Assassin's Creed III
12. Sing Party
13. Madden NFL 13
14. ESPN Sports Connection
15. Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge

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ioi really overtracked WiiU software by alot. (except Nintendo Land and Scribblenauts)

Original data:

New Super Mario Bros. Wii U - 316,344 (adjusted to 266,344)
ZombiU - 91,394 (adjusted to 78,965)
Call of Duty: Black Ops II - 51,904
Just Dance 4 - ~32,504
Epic Mickey 2 - ~40,000 (adjusted to 29,577)
Batman: Arkham City - 29,272
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed - 35,000 (adjusted to 21,062)
Skylanders: Giants - ~21,918
Assassin's Creed III - ~50,000 (adjusted to 25,858)
Sing Party - ~17,553
ESPN Sports Connection - ~21,000 (adjusted to 17,690)

WiiU 1,139,618 (adjusted to 1,051,819)

NPD numbers would suggest another 100k lower.



pezus said:
Kasz216 said:
Ah here is a couple. Call of Duty 2 was a launch game for the 360.

We don't have week one sales.

2 Week sales though were 225,874 in the US. Based on week 3 (and PS3 game sales) i'd guess that meant a launch of around 80-100K. (Why so low, if you look at launch games, they actually got more sales their second week then their first, see the other two games mentioned) So it was about 3 times that on 360 on a console more geared to shooters, but which less consoles around 305K

PS3's shooter was Resistance... and really it's biggest launch game. Wow. Anyway, It sold about 36K first week.on a 139,000 install base. So about a 26% attach rate there.

Another near launch game was Madden 07. Which is similar in that it already had a hardcore following on the 360. Meaning like Black Ops there was a big chance that early converters might not pick it up.

Madden 07 sold ~15K first week. On that 139K install base. Making it around a ~10% install base.

You throw in all the various pros and cons and such, and hopefully that puts things in more perspective.

None of these games are comparable to today's Call of Duty franchise though. 

But, even Resistance had an attach rate of 26%! Wow

The PS3's launch lineup was pretty grim.  Essentially if you didn't like Sports games it was Resistance or noting... I mean....  Oh COD3 was there.  DIdn't notice that.  I could of used that as a comparison.   Wii U argueably has had the strongest launch lineup in a long while... but  a lot of it is remade ports so who knows.  It's facinating to See Zombi U and Scribblenauts ahead of it.  Essentially a shooter but an original one, and a more quirky niche but generally critically loved series.

Also Nintendo land so high up there non-bundled.  It makes figuring out the Wii U early adopter profile very confusing.



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