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bananaking21 on 07 December 2012
noname2200 said:
bananaking21 said:
noname2200 said:
bananaking21 said:


dont put words in my mouth, i never said anything about my opinion and anything about mario not being noticable. the list i said for the vita games are all noticable and well known between gamers and gaming press, every game in my vita list has been talked about whether by the press or gamers. where as the list of the 3ds are games no one gives a shit about. go ahead tell me how much you love imagine babyz, fashion boutique and 3 angry birds games which cost 40 bucks where you could get them all on your andriod for free with more levels. 

I'd rhetorically ask if you know how astoundingly...silly....you sound right now, but we all know that you honestly don't. But please, don't let that stop you from continuing to bring the knowledge! It certainly hasn't so far.

then please explain to me how i am sounding astoundingly silly then :) 

No no, I'm just going to sit back and continue enjoying the explanation of how games like Guacamole and Smart As being mentioned at some point by "the press or gamers" makes them much more important than titles that will outsell half your list combined.

Please, continue.


and here we go again, sales apperantly mean quality. when ever i get into a discussion about games that gets thrown out alot, but this game sold better  ect ect. and here is a link to an IGN article, you know IGN one of the biggest gaming websites in the world. do they mention smart as and guacomole in it?

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/12/nycc-upcoming-playstation-vita-games-galore



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Mnementh on 07 December 2012
bananaking21 said:


dont put words in my mouth, i never said anything about my opinion and anything about mario not being noticable. the list i said for the vita games are all noticable and well known between gamers and gaming press, every game in my vita list has been talked about whether by the press or gamers. where as the list of the 3ds are games no one gives a shit about. go ahead tell me how much you love imagine babyz, fashion boutique and 3 angry birds games which cost 40 bucks where you could get them all on your andriod for free with more levels.


You said: 'and how many games of those are actually noticable? thank you, you just proved my point' to POEs list, a list containing two Mario-titles, Professor Layton, Scribblenauts, Rayman and so on. But what did you notice: imagine babyz, fashion boutique and angry birds. So, this are the games, that are noticable for you, as you don't even see Mario or Rayman.



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noname2200 on 07 December 2012

I also believe that IGN is the ultimate arbiter of quality, and therefore can offer no rebuttal.



bananaking21 on 07 December 2012
Mnementh said:
bananaking21 said:
 


dont put words in my mouth, i never said anything about my opinion and anything about mario not being noticable. the list i said for the vita games are all noticable and well known between gamers and gaming press, every game in my vita list has been talked about whether by the press or gamers. where as the list of the 3ds are games no one gives a shit about. go ahead tell me how much you love imagine babyz, fashion boutique and 3 angry birds games which cost 40 bucks where you could get them all on your andriod for free with more levels.


You said: 'and how many games of those are actually noticable? thank you, you just proved my point' to POEs list, a list containing two Mario-titles, Professor Layton, Scribblenauts, Rayman and so on. But what did you notice: imagine babyz, fashion boutique and angry birds. So, this are the games, that are noticable for you, as you don't even see Mario or Rayman.


or..... or and this is just a thought you know, i said those games to point out the games that really dont matter one shit to any gamer. maybe... just maybe thats why i pointed out those games and didnt point out mario or rayman (which btw is on vita) because those games are noticable. its just simple logic



Mnementh on 07 December 2012
bananaking21 said:
Mnementh said:
bananaking21 said:
 


dont put words in my mouth, i never said anything about my opinion and anything about mario not being noticable. the list i said for the vita games are all noticable and well known between gamers and gaming press, every game in my vita list has been talked about whether by the press or gamers. where as the list of the 3ds are games no one gives a shit about. go ahead tell me how much you love imagine babyz, fashion boutique and 3 angry birds games which cost 40 bucks where you could get them all on your andriod for free with more levels.


You said: 'and how many games of those are actually noticable? thank you, you just proved my point' to POEs list, a list containing two Mario-titles, Professor Layton, Scribblenauts, Rayman and so on. But what did you notice: imagine babyz, fashion boutique and angry birds. So, this are the games, that are noticable for you, as you don't even see Mario or Rayman.


or..... or and this is just a thought you know, i said those games to point out the games that really dont matter one shit to any gamer. maybe... just maybe thats why i pointed out those games and didnt point out mario or rayman (which btw is on vita) because those games are noticable. its just simple logic

You said: 'and how many games of those are actually noticable? thank you, you just proved my point' to POEs list. If you take out only the noticable this list is longer than your list of noticable Vita-games, that is not even restricted to two months. So which point has POE proven?



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ninetailschris on 07 December 2012
ryuzaki57 said:
Kenology said:
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Because Nintendo 1st party games are already choking 3rd parties' business on 3DS. Look at Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney...

Yeah, cherrypick one title and ignore all the other 3rd party games that put up decent numbers in 2012.  And PLvAA has only been out for one week and outsold Animal Crossing (1).  You're just spewing garbage, ryuzaki.

(1) Not sure I follow. Animal Crossing opened at something like 600k, it's now 1m+. Layton achieved a mere 130K. it can't just be series fatigue. You talk about decent numbers but Kingdom Hearts is 300Kish in Japan when KH Birth by Sleep was at 700k week 4. Resident Evil Revelations is under 300k while Racoon City is 350k and RE6 800k+ (with Revelations getting far better feedback). Project X Zone is still near 120k... I don't see much good news for 3rd parties on 3DS. Only SquareEnix and Capcom seem to do OK.


Rune factory did it's best number in Japan recently.

Kh is almost at million.

what are you going on about I'm sure if I no life's the sales of a 3ds games I could find more positive news. All of which would outsell if they were released on vita.



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bananaking21 on 07 December 2012
Mnementh said:
bananaking21 said:
Mnementh said:
bananaking21 said:
 


dont put words in my mouth, i never said anything about my opinion and anything about mario not being noticable. the list i said for the vita games are all noticable and well known between gamers and gaming press, every game in my vita list has been talked about whether by the press or gamers. where as the list of the 3ds are games no one gives a shit about. go ahead tell me how much you love imagine babyz, fashion boutique and 3 angry birds games which cost 40 bucks where you could get them all on your andriod for free with more levels.


You said: 'and how many games of those are actually noticable? thank you, you just proved my point' to POEs list, a list containing two Mario-titles, Professor Layton, Scribblenauts, Rayman and so on. But what did you notice: imagine babyz, fashion boutique and angry birds. So, this are the games, that are noticable for you, as you don't even see Mario or Rayman.


or..... or and this is just a thought you know, i said those games to point out the games that really dont matter one shit to any gamer. maybe... just maybe thats why i pointed out those games and didnt point out mario or rayman (which btw is on vita) because those games are noticable. its just simple logic

You said: 'and how many games of those are actually noticable? thank you, you just proved my point' to POEs list. If you take out only the noticable this list is longer than your list of noticable Vita-games, that is not even restricted to two months. So which point has POE proven?

go back to my post and read it so you an figure it out. i really dont like going around in circles and explaining stuff i already said. if you dont like what i said or agree with it, fine. so what? no need to keep saying the same old stuff over and over again



Mnementh on 07 December 2012

bananaking21 said:

 go back to my post and read it so you an figure it out. i really dont like going around in circles and explaining stuff i already said. if you dont like what i said or agree with it, fine. so what? no need to keep saying the same old stuff over and over again


I have to repeat myself, because you don't answer: How has POEs list proved your point? To make it easy for you, I remove all Imaging Babyz and stuff from POEs list and keep only noticable titles.

So, noticable titles from POEs list of 3DS releases restricted to the period September-November:

Activision Publishing, Inc. Skylanders Giants

Activision Publishing, Inc. Wipeout 3

ATLUS (Index Digital Media, Inc.) Code of Princess

Disney Interactive Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion

Electronic Arts FIFA

Natsume Inc. Harvest Moon: A New Beginning

Nintendo New Super Mario Bros. 2

Nintendo Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask

Nintendo Freakyforms Deluxe: Your Creations, Alive!

Nintendo Paper Mario: Sticker Star

SEGA Sonic and All-Stars Racing Transformed

Ubisoft Rayman Origins

Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment LEGO The Lord of the Rings

Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment Scribblenauts Unlimited

 

To comparison, your list of noticable Vita-titles, not restricted to two months:

 

bananaking21 said:

ohh ok not two months? cool

Tear Away

Sly cooper 4

PS All stars

Sound Shapes

Soul Sacrifice

Need For Speed

Fifa 13

LittleBigPlanet Vita

CoD : Declassified

Ragnarok Odyssey

Ratchet And Clack

Guacamole

Persona 4

Smart As

Lego Lord Of the Rings

Madden NFL

i guess that list is shit, right?

 As you can see, the 3DS have around the same number of noticable titles IN A SHORTER TIMEFRAME.

And now for the LOLs your post, that started this subdiscussion:

bananaking21 said:
because it is getting more games that the 3ds...

 I didn't shorted the things I cited from you and didn't took them out of context. You REALLY said that. The force is strong in you - the force of ignoring the reality.



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JimmyDanger on 07 December 2012
Turkish said:
The Vita has the best 1st year lineup Ive ever seen. So many good games came out these past few months. Cant wait on Soul Sacrifice.


I gather you weren't into gaming when the SNES, PSX, and Dreamcast were respectively launched.

If one game over 90 (itself an "enhanced" port of a 5 year old game) is the best launch lineup you've ever seen.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/dreamcast/metascore - look at how many of those titles came out in the first 12/13 months!

Metacritic doesn't have SNES games - and only 200 or so PSX games out of the 1000 plus released , and of those, reveiews are pretty sparse, so not giving a fair average - but to cite 3 - that would easily average over 90 if metacritic was a thing then - if I hadn't lost all my Mean Machines and EGM's from the 90's in a flood - i'd probably go dig em out!

PSX - Tekken, Ridge Racer and Wipeout - in the launch month - were absolute AAA at the time.

SNES - MarioWorld, ActRaiser, F-Zero - all absolute AAA.

Crikey - even the original Gameboy had MarioLand and Tetris at launch.

And 3DS got Ocarina, SM3d and SMK7 in its first year. One an enhanced port of a 10+ year old game.

This "Vita has the best launch lineup ever" is factually incorrect. Big Time. Critical wise, sales wise and historically speaking against other launches in both those categories. Whatever way you want to slice it.

I've nothing against the console, and will most likely get one at some stage - but I just wish some people would realise - when you point at the sky and tell people it's green, most people will just shrug their shoulders and go "whatever". Credit people with some intelligence - when they hear a deluded (or downright false) statement - they're likely to just walk away and say "that guy's nuts" - rather than argue with a crazy person.

Vita looks OK, it has some alright games, and more on the way. Tearaway could be a 95+. But all this ranting and raving and undue hyping makes a lot of people sound like a gaggle of FOX news pundits before election day. "Landslide for Romney Vita!" So wrapped up in their own bubbles, that the reality outside is pretty distorted.  And rational minded people couldn't be bothered to tell the emperor that he's wearing no clothes, so have a little chuckle, and get on with it.

But 3DS has more games. It has more games upcoming. It has a higher number of higher rated games.



cloud1161 on 07 December 2012

Can you provide some examples to support your claim?



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