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kowenicki said:

Forgive me. EXPLETIVE!

It's one of a set of skills that you need to be able to function in the modern business world.

If you can't communicate on a personal level then yes you are at a disadvantage. So hey.... Why not put yourself out there and learn.

I wasn't the best in the social business environment either, but I put myself out of my comfort zone and got on with it.

If you think everyone networking is comfortable then you are extremely naive.

Being qualified is less than half the requirement in my experience.

Your problem becomes more apparent by the day, you are negative and it's all someone else's fault.

I wouldn't hire you either. Get over yourself, the world owes you nothing.

 

rant response to rant thread over.

/thread.  

 

Edit: this was a bullshit reason to ban somebody, some people need to be told more directly so that head is removed from ass.



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I totally disagree with the whole premise behind this thread.

What do you expect!? Some type of metacritic system that appoints the 'highest scoring' individual. Get a reality check buddy.

Moreover, communication and inter-personal skills are vital to any workforce. The slimy little nerd who got 10% more than Mr.Confidence is simply not as wanted by employers.



sethnintendo said:

I fail at networking considering VGC is the only "social" network site I belong to.  Also, I have very few real life friends.  The less people I know the better.


This post makes me like you. I don't know why.



Meeting more people that know about your skills and abilities is a good thing, not a bad thing.

Having people to vouch for your character and work abilities isn't "Cheating", its having others that know about your skills and abilities that can pass along your aptitude to others in lieu of a piece of paper or a resume that may be meaningless.

I am not a social butterfly, but I know enough people in my industry, after building contacts for 6 years, to be able to make a call or two and get hired on if I were ever to lose my job. Just because you suck at it doesn't mean you can't learn if you make the effort.. Networking was something you were supposed to do in college, but you seemingly didn't do that.

And for what its worth, my job was entirely self-made, so I didn't have the advantage of college or other built-in networks. I'd imagine that made my job a little harder, but in the end, I did what I had to.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Dr.Grass said:
I totally disagree with the whole premise behind this thread.

What do you expect!? Some type of metacritic system that appoints the 'highest scoring' individual. Get a reality check buddy.

Moreover, communication and inter-personal skills are vital to any workforce. The slimy little nerd who got 10% more than Mr.Confidence is simply not as wanted by employers.


This post makes me like you. I don't know why.



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Player1x3 said:
Dr.Grass said:
I totally disagree with the whole premise behind this thread.

What do you expect!? Some type of metacritic system that appoints the 'highest scoring' individual. Get a reality check buddy.

Moreover, communication and inter-personal skills are vital to any workforce. The slimy little nerd who got 10% more than Mr.Confidence is simply not as wanted by employers.


This post makes me like you. I don't know why.


Made me smile.



Dr.Grass said:
I totally disagree with the whole premise behind this thread.

What do you expect!? Some type of metacritic system that appoints the 'highest scoring' individual. Get a reality check buddy.

Moreover, communication and inter-personal skills are vital to any workforce. The slimy little nerd who got 10% more than Mr.Confidence is simply not as wanted by employers.

Yes, honestly i do expect a level playing field. Just because the social climbers have built the empire doesn't mean the information age can't crush it and replace it with something objectively better that doesn't reward a certain type of personality exclusively over all other types.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

kowenicki said:

Forgive me. EXPLETIVE!

It's one of a set of skills that you need to be able to function in the modern business world.

If you can't communicate on a personal level then yes you are at a disadvantage. So hey.... Why not put yourself out there and learn.

I wasn't the best in the social business environment either, but I put myself out of my comfort zone and got on with it.

If you think everyone networking is comfortable then you are extremely naive.

Being qualified is less than half the requirement in my experience.

Your problem becomes more apparent by the day, you are negative and it's all someone else's fault.

I wouldn't hire you either. Get over yourself, the world owes you nothing.

 

rant response to rant thread over.


Tough I hate to do it, I have to agree with this post.

 

I know, I often find myself in dissatvantage when it comes to jobs, because of this particular issue, but as kowen wrote, this is a domain in wich you have to improove if you want to be successfull. I managed to do it to some degree, hated it, but had to.

Its the hard truth, but you will either adjust, or you will be left behind...



Vote the Mayor for Mayor!

As I said sitting around on a game forum complaining that I can't a job is silly.

Try hard and then you can sit at work at wag your finger at people then :)



Networks are incredibly valuable. In the OP's example, the person with a wider network is actually more valuable so more deserving than the person without a network.

Fortunately many of the skills required for success are ones you can learn and train. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of work, dedication and patience.

We live in a instant access world, and many of the skills require changing habits, which means you may not see any results for YEARS. I know this is true because I've been through it.