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ethomaz said:
sales2099 said:

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”.


2014 confirmed. The best news I could ask for.

I expect PS4 to 2014 too... end of 2014... maybe early in Japan.

This flies in the face of Sony saying they dont want to launch last again. This will be 2 years past WiiU and 1 year past Xbox.

Last gen they were riding the PS2 brand loyalty train. The brand situation is a totally different beast now. As a Sony fan, Im gonna say buckle up....its gonna be yet another bumpy generation ahead.



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sales2099 said:

This flies in the face of Sony saying they dont want to launch last again. This will be 2 years past WiiU and 1 year past Xbox.

Last gen they were riding the PS2 brand loyalty train. The brand situation is a totally different beast now. As a Sony fan, Im gonna say buckle up....its gonna be yet another bumpy generation ahead.

I expect Nextbox to 2014 too... I think no console will be released next year.



sales2099 said:
ethomaz said:
sales2099 said:

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”.


2014 confirmed. The best news I could ask for.

I expect PS4 to 2014 too... end of 2014... maybe early in Japan.

This flies in the face of Sony saying they dont want to launch last again. This will be 2 years past WiiU and 1 year past Xbox.

Last gen they were riding the PS2 brand loyalty train. The brand situation is a totally different beast now. As a Sony fan, Im gonna say buckle up....its gonna be yet another bumpy generation ahead.


ughhhh LOL you do realize this is the norm yes? I'm referring to final dev kits

here's an example

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/05/25/wii-u-final-development-kits-sent-out/

remember when the system launched? The final dev kit release means nothing really..other than the release date is close. End of 2013 and/or early 2014. At least wait and see if it's bumpy or not :)



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ethomaz said:
That "based on A10 system and base platform" gives me chills.

An A10 system is weak... the latest A10 in the market is a little more powerful than Wii U but even so it's week for 1080p@60 in 3D.

What I'm guessing is the A10 for PS4 will be customized to work with a better integrated GPU... instead a A10 with HD 7660D @ 384SPs I guess the PS3 will use a A10 with 7870M @ 512SPs.

Or to match my expectations: HD 7870 desktop edtion with 1280SPs (overpower).

The CPU is a Quad-core @ 3.xGhz


I ran these specs by a friend who's very knowledgeable of computer tech, and he said that on it's face, with these specs, it'd only be about twice as powerful as current gen systems. Obviously that could change in the final specs, but that's probably not a good place to start from.

Still, it's not like Sony could afford to release an expensive powerhouse, especially at a loss to make it affordable for consumers. They are in a bad place right now, they can't afford those kinds of risks. I see this as a smart move on their part.



ethomaz said:

Developers are currently taking receipt of a new PlayStation 4 dev kit, VG247 has been told today, with a final version slated to appear in January. Yes, it’ll have Blu-ray. No, it isn’t being made in Japan.

Multiple sources have confirmed to VG247 today that a new version of the Orbis kit is now shipping to developers, and that it’s housed in a normal PC case.

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”.

Some US developers attended a “disclosure meeting” at Sony’s offices this week, with a further meeting to take place in the coming weeks. The purpose of the meeting is for Sony to tell studios what the machine is designed to do, to detail hardware and to show a set of presentations.

Our source told us that Sony is only calling the machine Orbis, and is not using the words “PlayStation 4″ in these meetings at all.

Orbis, we were told today, is based on the AMD’s A10 APU series. An APU (Accelerated Processing Unit) is a combined CPU and GPU.

PS4′s APU was described today as a “derivative” of existing A10 hardware. The hardware is “based on A10 system and base platform”.

The “ultimate goal” for the hardware, we were told, is for it to be able to run 1080p60 games in 3D with “no problem,” to create a machine that’s powerful enough for “today and tomorrow’s market”.

The dev kits have “either 8Gb or 16Gb of RAM. Deduce from that what you will.”

The hardware is not being made in Japan, it was said.

When asked if PS4 will have an optical drive, specifically Blu-ray, our source responded: “Of course it has.” We’ve been told the hard drive will be 256Gb “as standard,” but it’s not clear if it’ll be a normal HDD or a solid state drive.

We were told that Sony’s aim with Orbis is to avoid problems involved in launching PS3 by creating something “very affordable” but that “isn’t a slouch”.

The machine has WiFi and Ethernet connectivity and HDMI out. Our source said the was “no difference” between PlayStation 3 and Orbis input/output.

The UI, however, has been revamped. It was said today that players will now be able to press the PS button mid-game and travel “anywhere” on the system. An example given was buying DLC from the PS Store mid-game then seamlessly returning to play.

“They’re trying to make it as fluid as possible,” our source said.

We were also told that the machine will be designed to accept system and product updates in the background, and that it’ll “always be in standby mode”. When you set the console up, we were told, you’ll be asked if you want to allow background downloads. You can, of course, disallow them.

No details have been given on the pad as yet. Confirmation is expected this month.

Orbis is expected to be announced at an event “just before E3″ next year.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/01/ps4_details_playstation_4/

 

What.....

 

Did you just wake up from a long RIP VAN WINKLE type sleep or something?

 

Old news buddy.

Learn to keep up.  thanks.



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Still hoping for 2013!



sales2099 said:

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”.


2014 confirmed. The best news I could ask for.


This in no way supports a 2014 release.

WiiU's final version also came out mid-2012.....

That's normal business. It will launch in 2013.



superchunk said:
sales2099 said:

There are to be four versions of the dev kit, we were told. A previous version was essentially just a graphics card. The version shipping now is a “modified PC,” and the third version, appearing in January, will be close to final spec. A final version will be delivered to developers “next summer”.


2014 confirmed. The best news I could ask for.


This in no way supports a 2014 release.

WiiU's final version also came out mid-2012.....

That's normal business. It will launch in 2013.

But up until now all Sony gave out was a graphics card. Fingers crossed.



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sales2099 said:

But up until now all Sony gave out was a graphics card. Fingers crossed.

Curious... why do you wish for it to be 2014 vs 13? Eitherway you get it eventually right?
 .. and the specs are already done. They wont' do major changes to what is in these dev kits at this point. Just tweaks here and there.



superchunk said:
sales2099 said:

But up until now all Sony gave out was a graphics card. Fingers crossed.

Curious... why do you wish for it to be 2014 vs 13? Eitherway you get it eventually right?
 .. and the specs are already done. They wont' do major changes to what is in these dev kits at this point. Just tweaks here and there.


He's betting and hoping that 720 launches next year and PS4 launches 2014 because console wars, I would guess.