Next-gen Kinect will have his own CPU this time,and OS likely taken by ARM-CPU(like WiiU)

Well it has already been implied by epic and crytek that next gen systems cannot run their new engines. What I am curious about is how many really care. Do people really care how powerful the new systems will be or are they just using an angle they have found against nintendo?

I only assume the leap is going to be large because it has been in the past. Surely there will be some kind of difference between the others and wii u? Once someone had me questioning the leap I came to the conclusion that it won't have the gap wii to 360 and ps3 had. But there will still be some kind of noticeable gap right?

you do know there is a technology called hyper threading plus looking at current PC hardware a quad core with HT is every bit as good as an 8 core, still one problem with multiple cores is heat generation.

my PC currently is running over 100 tasks and i only have a quad core, im sorry but i have to dissagree 8 cores are not needed its excessive to have 8 cores on a console a quad seams more realistic especially if it uses HT like the xenos on the 360 (a tri core with HT, 3 physical cores and 3 virtual cores giving it effectivly 6 cores).

Cry tech recently just said they barely got even.

wicher 2 said there considering 3 being on consoles because of illegal downloads being higher than actual sales and said they were disappointed with sales.

this people aren't doing anything amazing money wise and are barely making profit.

Yes but is that what main stream consumers want? Power has been proven to not be a truly viable system seller as the system tends to launch at a higher price and that puts consumers off. Even if you have a system on par with modern pcs the system will launch and pcs will have advanced.

I believe what the majority of gamers really want is new hardware just to get things to feel fresh again. They want a new toy to play with and what to see what their system can do. Pretty much like I am with my wii u right now. They don't care how big the power leap is. Compare the 46 million who bought an xbox and gamecube to the 153 million that bought a ps2 and it is obvious there aren't enough to rely on power as a selling point.

As I said in an earlier thread, even if the power leap is considerably high like last time, how many of you will be buying the console when the time comes?

Well in July,a neogaf member said it will use 8 cores Jugar,with 8GB RAM,GCN(around 6870/6950 level)

Hyper threading does not replace a core, It simply allows for better utilization of a cores resources that would otherwise be idle.

It's a 10% performance improvement, that is it.

100 tasks on a quad core? I'm running a 6 core processor with Hyper Threading, try running 100 copies of Maya and watch your system crash and burn.
You could run a million tasks on a single core processor, if they were light enough it would be fine.

A quad core may be enough for you and enough for gaming, but don't pretend that there aren't more demanding things you can do on a PC. ;)

You missed the point completely. Crytek didn't start making games with Crysis, the Witcher 2 dev profited. The PC put them both on the map.
Blizzard is a PC only Developer, Blue Byte, Relic, Firaxis etc'.

Plus, on the consoles, you release a game, it gets big sales then falls into obscurity, on the PC a developer can release a game, get some good sales then a few years down the track have another sale and rake in millions more and hit the top of the charts.
Then 10 years on, they do another sale and hit the top of the best-selling charts, it doesn't fall into obscurity and is forgotten it's going to be a revenue stream for many many many years.
Heck a good example of this is the current HumbleTHQbundle. - http://www.humblebundle.com/
Most of the games in it are fairly old, but it's passed the 500,000 sold mark.

The advantage of HT is it require very little die area... only the register state, renamed return stack buffer and large page instruction TLBs are duplicated... so you have a improviment in performance between 10-30% (depends what app is running) with almost no cost.

In the other side duplicate a core... a dual-core processor needs almost 80% of the die size to duplicated... the size limits the quantity of the cores. So the HT is a nice idea... the size of the processor with HT or not is almost the same and you have a little boost in performance.

Of course HT not replace SMP... but the two can work together... a 4-core processor + HT.... why not?

First of, Neogaf is not the end game for information, I'm a member there as well, I'd know how trollish that place can be. Second off, that shit would drain way too much power for a console and create all sorts of problems.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1683350#post1683350

And since Black Tusk will use UE4,not really too much power for that(the 8 cores Jaguar are 1.6GHz)