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I think the Dutch people here do not understand that this is actually a good thing for our economy, It may not seem like it but otherwise our economy would be to heated up. we are a small country and our economy is almost purely based on export, if this wasn't happening we could have gotten ourself in the same crisis a decade ago.



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CrashMan said:
Haven't there been non islamic terroist attacks happening in Europe for decades? (see IRA)

ehm isn't that a whole different story



hoerenkind said:
TheZ said:
Dbot said
Hate America all you want. Just know that we will be there for you no matter how ungrateful you are. When a country invades, or terrorists attack you, America will stand by you. No questions asked. That is an unshakeable truth.
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Amen

if terrorist should attack us it is because we are allies of america ...


Or because of Geert Wilders, or because we had troops in Iraq, or because we have troops in Afghanistan. We're allies because we want to and I think it's a good thing.

I'm against the war in Iraq, but it's there (for dubious reasons, but still) and you can sit back, relax and do nothing or you can help out, which will ultimately benefit the people there. The war in Afghanistan is approved by the UN and therefore as a member you should do your duty.

What I don't understand is why the US minister of defence is saying that the Dutch, British and Canadian forces aren't doing their jobs, seems like a very stupid move to me. 



BengaBenga said:
hoerenkind said:
TheZ said:
Dbot said
Hate America all you want. Just know that we will be there for you no matter how ungrateful you are. When a country invades, or terrorists attack you, America will stand by you. No questions asked. That is an unshakeable truth.
______________________________________________________________________________________
Amen

if terrorist should attack us it is because we are allies of america ...


Or because of Geert Wilders, or because we had troops in Iraq, or because we have troops in Afghanistan. We're allies because we want to and I think it's a good thing.

I'm against the war in Iraq, but it's there (for dubious reasons, but still) and you can sit back, relax and do nothing or you can help out, which will ultimately benefit the people there. The war in Afghanistan is approved by the UN and therefore as a member you should do your duty.

What I don't understand is why the US minister of defence is saying that the Dutch, British and Canadian forces aren't doing their jobs, seems like a very stupid move to me.


The war was approved by the UN because America said things as if they were facts while they were fictive...

 



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Starcraft: The war was approved by the UN because America said things as if they were facts while they were fictive...

That's not true, the Afghanistan war was approved (after it beclame clear that 9/11 was mostly arranged from there). You're mistaking it with the Iraq war,  in fact the war itself wasn't fought under UN flag, only by the coalition of the willing (Australia, Canada, Holland among others).



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hoerenkind said:
CrashMan said:
Haven't there been non islamic terroist attacks happening in Europe for decades? (see IRA)

ehm isn't that a whole different story


Not in my opinion.  Whether its a psycho redneck bombing an abortion clinic or an islamic fundamentalist strapping a bomb to themself or an IRA member dropping a bomb in a bar, its all terrorist activity.



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CrashMan said:
hoerenkind said:
CrashMan said:
Haven't there been non islamic terroist attacks happening in Europe for decades? (see IRA)

ehm isn't that a whole different story


Not in my opinion.  Whether its a psycho redneck bombing an abortion clinic or an islamic fundamentalist strapping a bomb to themself or an IRA member dropping a bomb in a bar, its all terrorist activity.


true, but not all terrorism is the same



Entroper said:
Yes, America is to blame for everything. We suck. We all get it.

I don't wish to insult or anything as I'm friends with the Americans, but the fact is that America consider itself as the leader of the world and most of all as the biggest insipiration in the world. Once America is affected by something, like the attacks on the World Trade Center or America ends up in recession, the entire world is affected. If The Netherlands or any other small, non influential country is in a recession, no one would even notice this.

I just name up a fact, no hate, let that be perfectly clear!



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dbot said:
Hate America all you want. Just know that we will be there for you no matter how ungrateful you are. When a country invades, or terrorists attack you, America will stand by you. No questions asked. That is an unshakeable truth.

 Yeah right. Just like America helped with the IRA, or with ETA in Spain.  Just like the US defended Tibet. And how it's doing a lot to help in Sudan.

Your worldview is a complete and total delusion. America intervenes when it helps America. The earlier you learn that, the better. 




dbot said:
Hate America all you want. Just know that we will be there for you no matter how ungrateful you are. When a country invades, or terrorists attack you, America will stand by you. No questions asked. That is an unshakeable truth.

 

May I remind you that in Afghanistan for instance Dutch troops are there to help your butts out, as the US asked us? And therefore we're losing men as well, while our men don't have to be there.... at all?! We're doing this to help you guys out, as we're your allies, like many other troups from all around the world. And we're taking a major risk as we're just as much threatened by those guys out there, but still... we stand by you "too".


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