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Soundwave said:

I don't understand this ... the system is only a modest leap from the Wii U?

Microsoft is basically going to have the upper end of the market to themselves and the Wii U will take the budget/casual/kids crowd on the bottom end ... leaving Sony with what?

If there's a noticable power gap between MS and Sony's machines, even if its slight enough that it gives MS the edge in many multi-plat titles ... Sony's goose is cooked IMO. 

Nintendo can play the low-tech card because they have a very loyal fanbase tied to their classic game franchises and the heavy draw of 80s/90s nostalgia, Sony really doesn't have that going for them. 

Yea because the most powerful console always "wins" the generation.



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theprof00 said:

SUMMARY: Sony is being choked out of the portables market. NDS and iPhone, as well as other products, ie kindle / iPad are filling in the open portions of the market. The competition is so intense that Sony has lost all the advantages that the portable market is defined by. In order to compete successfully, Sony needs to either compete directly against the competition by releasing a clone, or by trying something completely new.

Details below.

 

PSP is starting to age badly. The console is sold mainly on the games it has targeting the rabid fans of those franchises, ie Monster HUnter, Idol Master.

Originally, the thing that made consoles and portables explode was that they had marked advantages over the competition. Consoles delivered gaming for a quarter of the hardware price and 100% more reliability without requiring any upgrades to core components. Portables did the same but with consoles on the recieving end. POrtables were cheaper, had all the same advantages of consoles vs PCs, but were, at first, a twentieth the price of laptops, the only other portable systems.

Looking at the market now, netbooks, cheap laptops, and smart phones have taken the place of the laptop vs portables. Using the Iphone as a basis for comparison, a portable gaming console now has no real advantages. The Iphone doesn't need upgrades, it always performs reliably, is affordable, popular, and also sports the advantage of being a phone too. Also, with the release of a new app called Line2, for 15$ a month, any iphone (or even IpodTouch) can have a phone line with an 800 number and makes calls over the internet for free.

So, what to do?

Nintendo has the right idea because they are taking a product (3d) and making it so accessible, without the need of glasses, and cheap, that it is going to swallow a big portion of the 3d movement. That is their new advantage. However, they also have the benefit of huge 1st party brand recognition, and a reputation for making great games.

However, Nintendo doesn't have the advantage of being a phone. So the way they stand, Nintendo is on one end and the iphone is on the other. From the Sony perspective, there is really no room unless they do somethign completely new, or engage in red ocean with both of them. However, there is nothing really new that they can do. Anything they can think of, software wise, can be done on the Iphone, and gaming is stronger on the DS. The only avenue is new hardware, or stealing 3d.

One particularly interesting idea I've been throwing around is a shades based console, similar to the one used in Heavy Rain. A pair of sunglasses and a glove could be amazingly accessible and has a lot of potential for improvement. Additionally, if the hardware was engineered well enough, multiple people could play on the same system, using different pairs of glasses and have a truly unique experience with it.

This could be easily done at a low price without any problems if it is engineered correctly, and it would open up a completely new market. It also has many distinct advantages over the others.

However, barring a new hardware type idea, the only option Sony really has is to steal the 3d idea from Nintendo, shamelessly, and compete directly with them. This is because not only is Nintendo going to disrupt the console 3d market, but psp is in a position now where it is being choked out of the portable market. However, if looking at Nintendo for the past three years has taught them anything, it's that Sony needs to compete directly with Nintendo in the future and stop allowing them to take new markets...because pretty soon they will all be gone.

I should've known. This was a much older idea, and apparently Sony just wasn't ready to do it. Looks like they're going forward with the idea though.
Not portable though, but one day.... :D

Interesting that my last two console ideas end up being a combination of the next playstation.



Soundwave said:

I don't understand this ... the system is only a modest leap from the Wii U?

Microsoft is basically going to have the upper end of the market to themselves and the Wii U will take the budget/casual/kids crowd on the bottom end ... leaving Sony with what?

If there's a noticable power gap between MS and Sony's machines, even if its slight enough that it gives MS the edge in many multi-plat titles ... Sony's goose is cooked IMO. 

Nintendo can play the low-tech card because they have a very loyal fanbase tied to their classic game franchises and the heavy draw of 80s/90s nostalgia, Sony really doesn't have that going for them. 

you might just get the shock of your life

 

everything will be made with BOTH PS4 and 720 IN MIND. Mainly only MS's 1st party will utilize the power



BluGamer23 said:
yes please sony! we want a vr headset.. and a monster specd omni! .. you cant let Microsoft get away with having the most powerful!.. this must not happen.

Read my recent thread about ps4.

Sony really doesn't need to mess with big hardware upgrades. Gaikai, would be able to provide cutting edge graphics at the highest resolutions for people that subscribe to something like say PS+. They can make a nominal improvement, and let Gaikai take on 360.

Higher resolutions and better graphics means games will cost more to make, which devs complained about this past gen. Competing more with nintendo will pull all the multiplats. Then they will just use gaikai to stream the 360 quality games.



 

 

 



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Special headset that brings 3D and additional AR gameplay. A game called "Bump in the night"?

Sign me up! O_o



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theprof00 said:
BluGamer23 said:
yes please sony! we want a vr headset.. and a monster specd omni! .. you cant let Microsoft get away with having the most powerful!.. this must not happen.

Read my recent thread about ps4.

Sony really doesn't need to mess with big hardware upgrades. Gaikai, would be able to provide cutting edge graphics at the highest resolutions for people that subscribe to something like say PS+. They can make a nominal improvement, and let Gaikai take on 360.

Higher resolutions and better graphics means games will cost more to make, which devs complained about this past gen. Competing more with nintendo will pull all the multiplats. Then they will just use gaikai to stream the 360 quality games.

theprof00.. im just being sarcastic.. while there people on here and forums that want a super spec'd out ps4 that would bring it to a super high price.. its definitely not what sony needs.. lol.. but people refuse to believe it wont be as powerful as they think it would be... it would definitely be more powerful than wiiU.. thats a given.



 

If that dongle is real, then would it be possible for that to be used to add extra power for Omni games? For example, what if they had two graphics settings: normal and enhanced. Kinda like computers and the different graphics settings.





enditall727 said:
Soundwave said:

I don't understand this ... the system is only a modest leap from the Wii U?

Microsoft is basically going to have the upper end of the market to themselves and the Wii U will take the budget/casual/kids crowd on the bottom end ... leaving Sony with what?

If there's a noticable power gap between MS and Sony's machines, even if its slight enough that it gives MS the edge in many multi-plat titles ... Sony's goose is cooked IMO. 

Nintendo can play the low-tech card because they have a very loyal fanbase tied to their classic game franchises and the heavy draw of 80s/90s nostalgia, Sony really doesn't have that going for them. 

you might just get the shock of your life

 

everything will be made with BOTH PS4 and 720 IN MIND. Mainly only MS's 1st party will utilize the power

Yes I agree, BUT if MS provides more a whole lot more "breathing space" and not just a little for developers, 3rd party devs can simply insert a graphics technique in the 3rd party game as opposed to trying to optimize it in the Ps4 aswell. 

See, they wont really downgrade the 720 version b/c of the Ps4 version IF the power gap is large.

However, this is only theoretically speaking in a possible future where the 720 takes the power crown. This also applies for the Ps4 if the rumors are false. 



Yay!!!

spurgeonryan said:
There is no way on earth that they aree going to name it anything other than PS4.


You taking bets on this? Because i am 100% sure it wont be called PS4 in Japan at least.