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ironmanDX said:
Dmick90 said:
ironmanDX said:
Dmick90 said:
Barozi said:
ugh could you please stop with these walls of text and delete the previous quotes ?


I don't recall asking for your opinion. 


It's a forum

on the internet......

 

 

not nazi camp.

K so you and your Nazi friends can mind your own business. 

It's a shame your username is almost accurate. Just remeber if you make another account, to remove the m next time.

How kind you are... Make sure you remember* how to spell next time before you talk to me again.



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ethomaz said:
TheShape31 said:
Please edit the title to reflect that the sales were for the Week of Black Friday. Sort of like this article:

http://www.examiner.com/article/microsoft-reports-over-750-000-xbox-360-s-sold-during-black-friday-week

The OP said "* Sunday, Nov. 18 – Friday, Nov. 23"... nothing wrong here.


The title of this thread says "Black Friday", not "Black Friday Week".  It gives people the impression that it happened on one single day, which it didn't.  It's a misleading title that should be changed to accurately reflect what the original post sets out to explain.  It does matter.



There's no way PS3 can match it's sales from last year. Hardware is down YoY and PS3 BF's price was the same as last year with LBP2 and Ratchet and Clank. They probably sold out for a bit over the weekend, but didn't Sony ship less consoles to retailers last BF? The demand IMO is just not there. My prediction is 365K for PS3.



I'm just wondering why ps3 wasn't mentioned, just wii.
Is it because nintendo gave numbers already, and sony hasn't?



theprof00 said:
I'm just wondering why ps3 wasn't mentioned, just wii.
Is it because nintendo gave numbers already, and sony hasn't?


Yes



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Dmick90 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


The Xbox was created in retaliation to Sonys market dominance.  Seamus was the sole member of the Xbox team to stay after the original Xbox launched. Microsoft couldnt give two shits about an actual gaming console until they brought it up at a board meeting. I know the story, Seamus and his DirectX team  studied the specs on the PS2 inside and out before they even launched the Xbox. Anyone is a threat to PC is trying to in some way become a multimedia hub, but Sony never took it overboard, Microsoft will. Sony puts multimedia first because they create hardware and that hardware can be the format lead for their console. Microsoft wants multimedia not a format lead but simply to create an objective of having an all in one device (like a cable box/PC hybrid). Gamers come second in all of this, because Microsoft knows they wont leave because of games like Halo and Gears. Meanwhile, Sony is walking out of this gen loaded with games, because that is their aim and their goal. The way you walk out of a room is sometimes a better impression than the way you came. Microsoft is going on with Apple the same way they always have as well. Sony set out to prove that console games could be just as much a viable option as PC games, Microsoft set out to shut out that notion and just ended up helping them at the same time by increasing the consoles dominance and now PC game companies are focusing on consoles. Microsoft failed to save PC gaming. Steam and Blizzard saved PC gaming, plain and simple. It wont get anymore clear cut than that. Who was going to stand up for console games, Nintendo? Hah! The way Nintendo was running things (no matter how great it was to me as a kid) was making PC gamers scroff and arcade heads laugh when those markets were still majorly popular. The PS2's existence changed all of that and the Xbox 360 only furthered Sonys aspirations. There existence is only to be the North American alternative. 85% of their games will mirror one another at all times, because that Microsofts reason for being in gaming, to keep Sony down.

Need I remind you that the Playstation was created in retaliation to Nintendo when they backstabbed Sony. Sony didn't give a shit about making a game console either until Nintendo gave them the middle finger and left them high and dry at the altar. You think Sony gives two shits about you? You think Sony is your friend, lol. Sony puts hardware first over good software, that's why they are losing this gen. Microsoft focused on making fun games. Just look at the PS Move, no originality, no good games, and the sales validate that. They ripped off the Wiimote. What did they do? They created a plastic stick with a ball at the end of it, probably the lamest idea they ever conceived of. It's like the Sony execs sat around and were like fuck it let's throw this out there and see if people take the bait this time. But people weren't fooled. Microsoft atleast put some thought and new, innovative ideas into the Kinect. It just pisses me off because it seems Sony follows Nintendo and Microsoft in everything they do, they just copy and steal ideas from other companies. When Nintendo introduced the analogue stick and rumble pak on the N64 controller, Sony had to have sticks and rumble on their controller. Nintendo put motion gaming on the map and Sony had to copy that. Nintendo had Smash Bros, Sony had to copy that with Allstars Battle Royale. Sony tried to mimic Xbox Live with Playstation Plus. Microsoft had Halo and Sony brought out that turd Killzone. Microsoft had a home button on the controller, Sony had to have that too. Microsoft and Sega had triggers on the controller first, and Sony copied that. "Sony is walking out of this gen loaded with games"? What loads of games are you talking about? Last I checked their weren't a whole lot of good games on PS3.

Well I'll keep this list to just exclusives to counter you *cracks neck*

Ratchet and Clank Future (3 games), Thatgamecompany's exclusives (3 games), Uncharted (3 games), Resistance (3 games), LBP (2 games), Infamous (2 games), Heavenly Sword, MGS4, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, and Warhawk.

Let's compare to 360

Halo (4 games), Gears (3 games), Forza (4 games), Fable (2 games), L4D (2 games).

Gee that looks awfully favorable towards Sony.




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theprof00 said:
I'm just wondering why ps3 wasn't mentioned, just wii.
Is it because nintendo gave numbers already, and sony hasn't?


Sony is always like that. We always end up waiting a full a couple days to a week for a full release of info. Microsoft and Nintendo are always boasting their sales and aspirations for spreading their influences into the other parts of the living room.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
theprof00 said:
I'm just wondering why ps3 wasn't mentioned, just wii.
Is it because nintendo gave numbers already, and sony hasn't?


Sony is always like that. We always end up waiting a full a couple days to a week for a full release of info.

Except they never tell us anything lol.
Hard to be a Sony fan sometimes...T_T



theprof00 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
theprof00 said:
I'm just wondering why ps3 wasn't mentioned, just wii.
Is it because nintendo gave numbers already, and sony hasn't?


Sony is always like that. We always end up waiting a full a couple days to a week for a full release of info.

Except they never tell us anything lol.
Hard to be a Sony fan sometimes...T_T


Why? Because they dont like to boast?



superchunk said:
goddog said:

on advertising i received a one to one on WiiU and 360 ads, i cannot recall getting any PS3 ads most of the 360 adds were for the new bundle and the 50 bucks off, the WiiU ads were more hey there is a new console, from amazon and gamestop mainly. note i do not watch tv outside of football games anymore.

and while i do not consider it a victory its still pretty damn good sales considering the price should be down to about 149 now for a 360 with an hdd being able to hold sales up this year at 199 means they may give it a go one more year, release the set top box in-between next year and a full console the year after a few places have rumored to a two prong microsoft move next generation with a low end option aimed at media consumption more then gaming and a true 360 successor later 

personally i feel the two pronged option will only confuse some buyers and dilute the brand name, i also feel MS has been destroying the 360 brand for the last two sub par GUI updates... this years should have been what we saw last year and its still has many usability problems. I feel like MS is sacrificing usability in the name of uniformity and hoping the can force it across all platforms regardless of if it makes sense how its being used or if it slows users down.... and as an added benefit drive up ad revenue 


ads: I was referring to the black friday print ads. I extensively research this... WiiU had zero. I know AFTER BF I also received a few emails from toys r us regarding WiiU being a new console, but that was it. One email. Amazon didn't advertise WiiU because it isnt' even carrying it... at least not in US. I get Gamestops's emails and I don't remember seeing it, but truthfully I didn't really read the email much.

360's successor will be out next year, end of story. Sales are down well over double digits year over year and there were significant bundling plus a $50 price drop this holiday accross the board and a ton of advertising from EVERY retailer and MS themselves. (same goes for PS3 really)

ads, you are right, correction to ads was toys'r'us not amazon. and would not know about print ads, used to read paper daily but have fallen out of the habit just online stuff for me… don't even watch tv anymore.

the release date we have had this discussion before and i don't see my stance or yours changing , i still see 2014 as a good possibility if the set top box rumor is true. it would be a nice test for them of how far they can stretch the brand 



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